Welding question

ayjay1, Dec 6, 5:52am
There is a bracket on the front end of the Chassis on my Commodore wagon that a bracing strut is attached to. The strut stops the axlefrom moving forwards or backwards. (Sorry about the description) Well the chasis bracket has cracked and needs to be welded. Does this work need to be done by a certified welder and if so where would I find one in Rotorua.

carlz05, Dec 6, 5:59am
Look for any rust repair places, or panelbeater could probably fix it quickly.As long it professionally welded it shouldn't be a problem.

trader_84, Dec 6, 6:02am
I don't know whether it does or not but if it was me - I wouldn't be seeking out a certified welder. I'd zing it up myself. I sorta can visualize where/what you are talking about and I'm guessing there would not be anything there thicker than around 3mm or similar. As long as you can get at it ok . anyone who can weld should be able to do it. By my reckoning anyway.

austingtir, Dec 6, 6:18am
I wouldnt be suprised if any certified welder with any common sense would run a mile from this.I would and im certified.That said if it was my own car i would probably weld it up.

I dont know how you would go with panelbeaters as that could open a can of worms for you.Its hard to tell from your description weather this is an important part of the suspension or not.

Your best off finding someone competent and just get them to weld it up with a backing strip if possible and grind, sand and paint it so it looks like it was never touched.Only do this if you know its not a big deal if it breaks again.

Was this found during a wof check!

h.e, Dec 6, 6:43am
we had a older navara in a couples of weeks ago chassis was snapped on both sides just behind the engine mounts. Only thing holding it together was the motor and box as well as the guards. We asked the panelbeaters across the road if a cert would be required was told no just weld it up

lookoutas, Dec 6, 7:11am
You need to take it to a CRA registered Panelbeater. They will be the only ones who have weld certified technicians fully experienced in undertaking such repairs.

ayjay1, Dec 6, 7:29am
No it wasnt found in a wof checkbut I am a builder and I wouldnt give it a wof If i saw it. It is on the front suspension and the bracket is less than 3 mil thick.it is right behind the stabiliser bar. There is a guy in Rotorua who specialises in rust repairs i will see what he says. It is not rusted though it is a definite crack.
Thanks very much for your help.

ayjay1, Dec 6, 7:29am
No it wasnt found in a wof checkbut I am a builder and I wouldnt give it a wof If i saw it. It is on the front suspension and it is less than 3 mil thick.it is right behind the stabiliser bar. There is a guy in Rotorua who specialises in rust repairs i will see what he says. It is not rusted though it is a definite crack.
Thanks very much for your help.

trader_84, Dec 6, 7:54am
Mate, if you start getting a gut feeling that he is going to try and rip you a new ring piece - go somewhere else. The motor trade is like a dirty great gravy train . and there is heaps of cretins out there feeding from the trough and spreading scare stories. Carrying out little repairs like what you are after is not rocket science. As long as its not broken due to rust (which I doubt because it'd be common knowlege by now that they did have a problem there caused by rust) then its probably just wear and tear or its taken a knock. Both occurances which happen to a lot of cars which are then fixed/repaired by a mechanic armed with a MIG. No certifyer in sight.

petermcg, Dec 6, 8:20am
Get it welded, by a good welder, you will need it to be a mig welder. Sheetmetal worker panel beater etc. Dont have to be certified welder for this, just get it painted and looking tidy.

ayjay1, Dec 6, 10:15am
Thanks for your help.

supernova2, Dec 6, 11:11am
If the guy you are thinking of is in a residential area I doubt you will ever get any sense out of him.BUIL asked him to do some fairly straight forward rust work on an old 50s Austin and was eventually told that he thought the car panels were too thick for him to fix!WTF!

ayjay1, Dec 6, 5:26pm
MT View Drive!

bjmh, Dec 6, 7:25pm
g) poor repairs that have not returned the structure to within a safe tolerance of when it was manufactured (Note 3) (Note 6), eg:

i. filler has been used in an attempt to conceal corrosion damage or deformation of a component

ii. a high strength steel component has been heated

iii. a component has been strengthened.

these are some of the reasons for rejection re a w.o.fjust make sure its a good job and keep the seagulls away from the welder.

ayjay1, Dec 6, 11:35pm
yep thats the bit. I must find out how to stick a photo on here. pictures speak better than words :-) Thanks