What does tiptronic mean exactly

im looking at getting a new car (maybe) have drove a manual for the last 10 years and im finding this word tiptronic everywhere but i have no idea what it is lol, does it just automatic ! TIA

driver_dragontales, Sep 26, 12:50 pm

it is just an automatic which you can tell when to change up or down.

driver_morrisman1, Sep 26, 12:51 pm

A light touch on the gear stick changes gear electronically.

driver_richard198, Sep 26, 12:52 pm

ok thank you

driver_dragontales, Sep 26, 12:54 pm

On most cars it is a conventional (epicyclic) automatic gearbox but with a different layout to the selector gate; so instead of the first, second, third gear hold positions there is an "up" and a "down" position above and below Drive so that when you want to hold it in the lower gears you can use the selector lever like a toggle switch to click up and down through the gears like a racing car driver.

I've found that when driving quickly on a twisty road the tiptronic setup makes it quite a bit easier than a regular auto gate does to get down into the right gear before the corner, because you're not worried about accidentally pulling it back two gears instead of one.

Some flasher (european) cars have an automated gearbox of a completely different type, with servo controlled clutches etc.

driver_richardmayes, Sep 26, 1:12 pm

thanks for that explanation richardmayes

driver_dragontales, Sep 26, 1:15 pm

Is that the DSG gearbox!
After around 30 years of driving manuals, I'm getting an auto early next year and really like what I've read about the tiptronic gearboxs.

driver_shelleigh, Sep 26, 2:07 pm

I don't know how reliable this website is but found this explanation easy to understand -
http://cars.about.com/od/thingsyouneedtoknow/a/ag_howDSGworks.htm

driver_shelleigh, Sep 26, 2:08 pm

It only refers to the design& is licensed tocar makers who make their own versionssome good & some not so good .

driver_elect70, Sep 26, 2:23 pm

Developed by Porsche in around 1972.

driver_rsr72, Sep 26, 2:40 pm

what about toyota altezza's !

driver_dragontales, Sep 26, 2:43 pm

The toyota range with tiptronic have tried to capture the experience of driving a genuine "flappy paddle" tiptroning as fitted to F1 cars. Flappy paddle refers to litterally levers that hang down in the webbs of the steering wheel and you change gears using your thumb.
For day to day use a "real" flappy paddle setup is a bit cumbersome because unlike F1 cars you need to regularly turn the wheel aroundso toyota have instead fitted up and downshift buttons into the steering wheel. Push either button on the frond to upshift and any button on the back to downshift.
Reality--youll play with it for a week then just drive it 99% of the time as a normal auto

driver_kazbanz, Sep 26, 2:52 pm

Kazbanz what's your opinion of the DSG's in the Golf, Passat and AudiA3's! Am looking at 2008 onwards - thanks :)

driver_shelleigh, Sep 26, 3:00 pm

thanks for that kazbanz so i bit of a novelty lol

driver_dragontales, Sep 26, 3:02 pm

Shelleigh I don't like them PERSONALLY.Because of that I won't /don't stock them -so in fairness Its unfair of me to comment.
DO have a readup on the experiences of previous owners

driver_kazbanz, Sep 26, 3:02 pm

Thanks for that Kazbanz. What don't you like about them!
Will have a read of other comments about them.

driver_shelleigh, Sep 26, 3:04 pm

Shelleigh--In a nutshell -EVERY single solitary VW,audi,fiatthat I've had in stock has cost me THOUSANDS of dollars to repair either by me with it in stock or during the first few months of the new owner having it. So I guess understandably I personally dislike em

driver_kazbanz, Sep 26, 3:08 pm


The fiat man wron't be too happy .

driver_johnf_456, Sep 26, 3:12 pm

Sure is understandable Kazbanz.
Just out of interest, have they all been imported from Japan!

driver_shelleigh, Sep 26, 3:44 pm

Too true, Kazbanz will be in the bad books alright.

driver_shelleigh, Sep 26, 3:45 pm


No its been a mixture of jap/singapore Imports (singapores were trades)
As well as kiwi new.
The one that made me feel the very worst was an Audi wagon 03 vintage.
I sold it to a really nice heavily pregnant lady and the aircon basicly died totally.

driver_kazbanz, Sep 26, 4:20 pm

I like the look of those AudiA3.
You would have been gutted having such a bad run.

driver_shelleigh, Sep 26, 4:35 pm

About the truth!

driver_lookoutas, Sep 26, 5:22 pm


Tell me something I don't know, I got the popcorn ready.

driver_johnf_456, Sep 26, 8:27 pm

The biggest difference I have found between the 5 speed manual and 6 speed tiptronic I drive is the 'roller coaster' feeling of the tiptronic.
The manual has engine braking so I use the brakes less to slow down.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manual_transmission#Engine_braking
Group N rally cars still have manual/ dog gearboxes.

driver_serf407, Sep 27, 8:06 am

I still prefer a5 speed manualhave had autos tried aDSG on approplaying rally driverbut didnt buy itnovelty soon wears off . But less 7 less manufacturers are making manuals- they say demand is declining rapidly & drivers want more bells & whistles rather than a "driverscar ' Even likes ofBMWonly put manual on thesmallbasicmodels

driver_elect70, Sep 27, 3:23 pm

That isn't true, you can get the performance versions of all BMWs with a normal manual (even the M6).

Its true not many are optioned that way, but it doesn't mean the manual isn't available.

driver_vtecintegra, Sep 27, 6:05 pm

Tiptronic
This is a car transmission that allows the driver to switch the transmission between fully automatic, or manual. Obviously it is a clutchless manual. This gearbox is the future.
Audi is the latest to create the world's finest 'tiptronic' gearbox, and it's called 'DSG', which stands for 'Direct Shift Gearbox'. This allows the driver to change gear using the 'tiptronic' setting faster than any driver in the world would using a manual transmission. Also you can change gear on the steering wheel, as seen in F1.

driver_pankaj_patil, Oct 20, 7:30 pm

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