Reg On Hold? NZTA now want to hold your plates

Latest Classic Car Mag, Greg Price says that this change has gone under the radar You must hand your plates in to the registrar (in Palmerston North) and when you re-reg your vehicle or Motorcycle you will have to apply for the plate back. The actual wording is "(6) If the registration plate or plates are surrendered, the registrar must on expiry of the exemption, return the surrendered plate or plates, or WHERE THAT IS NOT PRACTICABLE, A DUPLICATE PLATE OR PLATES."
Say good bye to your classic or "Silver on Black" Plates! They won't build a warehouse to store plate, they will scrap them!

driver_planespotterhvn, Jun 7, 1:22 pm

Thats not true. It only applies to people who have been putting there cars on hold and then continue to drive them and then getting caught, then there ordered to hand in there plates.

driver_74nova, Jun 7, 1:29 pm

There's no part of the legislation requiring those conditions to be met. So that post is pure fiction.

driver_crzyhrse, Jun 7, 1:33 pm

BTW it's "they're" and "their".

driver_crzyhrse, Jun 7, 1:35 pm

That is basically true. I have a letter inmy e mail from Steven Joyce himself stating this.

driver_joanie32, Jun 7, 2:32 pm

Just don't get caught.

driver_saffa2, Jun 7, 3:11 pm

planespotterhvn out of curiosity can you actually quote the article! Just wondering whether the article was wrong, or you misinterpreted it.

driver_smac, Jun 7, 3:54 pm

???There is a segment of drivers and motorcyclists who put their vehicle license on hold while continuing to drive their vehicle as a way of avoiding payment. These measures combined with the added threat of demerit points, send a strong message that the government will not tolerate this,??? says Mr Joyce.

It is to combat the few,who try to abuse the system.

driver_marcos1, Jun 7, 4:15 pm

All it means is that the registrar has the discretion to confiscate plates, it doesn't mean that everyone who dares to put their rego on hold is going to lose them!Already been discussed in the thread linked to in post #5, get with the program.

driver_franc123, Jun 7, 4:15 pm

???There is a segment of drivers and motorcyclists who put their vehicle license on hold while continuing to drive their vehicle as a way of avoiding payment. These measures combined with the added threat of demerit points, send a strong message that the government will not tolerate this,??? says Mr Joyce.

It is to combat the few,who try to abuse the system.

driver_marcos1, Jun 7, 4:15 pm

The law does not require them to act in that fashion. Anyone can be subject to this.

driver_crzyhrse, Jun 7, 5:40 pm

There's an artical in the lastest Petrolhead about this. Find a copy and read it.

driver_74nova, Jun 7, 5:41 pm

I suggest you read the quoted magazine article and the preceding months editorial if you doubt what I say. This is a sneaky new twist to the rule that Steven Joyce may not have yet notified us about.
I cannot see why Steven says that only those caught driving on the road need to surrender their plates they will be charged their outstanding rego plus fines and demerit points. It only makes sense if ALL vehicles on hold will in future surrender their plates If they want to APPLY to the registrar to see if he will allow your rego to go on hold. And if you DO NOT surrender your plates then no exemption will be given and you will pay full rego fees for all your collection of classic cars and motorcycles (On the road or Under restoration). The bastards have got our scrotes in the vice again!

driver_planespotterhvn, Jun 7, 6:04 pm

Before you get too tied up in knots how about reading the actual legislation as opposed to mere interpretations in magazine articles.Your plates will only have to be surrendered if NZTA has good reason to confiscate them.Trust me they won't want to be handling vast amounts of used number plates and neither will their agents.

http://legislation.govt.nz/regulation/public/2011/0079/latest/whole.html#dlm2938344

driver_franc123, Jun 7, 6:19 pm

OK planespotterhvn, before I thought you were genuinely mistaken, or perhaps the article was wrong, which is why I asked you to quote it. Now I know you're an idiot.

driver_smac, Jun 7, 7:26 pm

havent we already done this thread!

driver_roys351, Jun 7, 7:28 pm

Maybe but not everyone lives on trademe.

driver_74nova, Jun 7, 8:44 pm

More like some can't usethe search engine.
Over this way
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driver_johnf_456, Jun 7, 8:45 pm

I've just put my 1987 BMW 325 convertable rego on hold as it won't be used for some months. I have still got the plates on the car and was not asked to hand them in.

driver_carstauranga001, Jun 7, 9:12 pm

What part of IN THE FUTURE do you not understand!

driver_planespotterhvn, Jun 7, 9:39 pm

I would be an idiot if I typed the entire article out for you. Go to the supermarket and buy yourself a copy. Read it and shut up!page 24 Greg Price. "Price On."

driver_planespotterhvn, Jun 7, 9:43 pm

Geeze theres no getting through to some people is there.I give up.

driver_franc123, Jun 7, 9:47 pm

^^ Yup

driver_johnf_456, Jun 7, 9:48 pm

Ive got the mag, read the article and dont agree with OP at all.Who said Greg Price is the Lord and Master on this subject.I agree with the others - read the legislation and draw your own conclusions.I have and my conclusion is we have nothing to worry about as long as we dont make a habit of driving around in unlicenced vehicles which are "on hold" - ie not to be used on the road.How simple is that to understand!

driver_supernova2, Jun 7, 9:53 pm

Read it and weep:
2) The registered person, or a person acting on the registered person's behalf, may apply to the Registrar for an exemption from the continuous licensing requirement.

(3) The application must be in a form acceptable to the Registrar, and contain the information and declarations that are specified by the Registrar.

(4) On receipt of a properly completed application, accompanied by any unpaid licence fees and accident insurance levies, the Registrar must, subject to subclauses (7) and (9), grant an exemption for a period that the Registrar thinks fit.

(5) The Registrar may require the registered person, or the person acting on the registered person??ôs behalf, to surrender the registration plate or plates of the motor vehicle for the duration of the exemption.

driver_planespotterhvn, Jun 7, 10:25 pm

Read it and weep:
2) The registered person, or a person acting on the registered person's behalf, may apply to the Registrar for an exemption from the continuous licensing requirement.

(3) The application must be in a form acceptable to the Registrar, and contain the information and declarations that are specified by the Registrar.

(4) On receipt of a properly completed application, accompanied by any unpaid licence fees and accident insurance levies, the Registrar must, subject to subclauses (7) and (9), grant an exemption for a period that the Registrar thinks fit.

(5) The Registrar may require the registered person, or the person acting on the registered person??ôs behalf, to surrender the registration plate or plates of the motor vehicle for the duration of the exemption.

driver_planespotterhvn, Jun 7, 10:25 pm

Has anybody read the article on this subject in the latest "Beaded Wheels" Vintage Car Club of N.Z. magazine. That may help some of you.

driver_ml6989, Jun 7, 10:27 pm

I have a scooter with the regt on hold but I keep getting renewal papers. whats the story here! BTW this scooter the clutch is stuffed so I will be selling it and the new owner will have the option of putting it back on the road.

driver_triangle1, Jun 7, 11:45 pm

Surely upon return of a plate (if this episode of confiscation does happen) the new plate would still have the original sequence, if so then I've lost my orignal black plate ;)

driver_i-n-horz, Jun 8, 1:17 am

you can cancel a hold at anytime by getting a new rego, or by asking for the hold to be released

the people at the post shop can sort it

driver_wrong2, Jun 8, 1:28 am

If they want you to return your plates, just say you'll find them and bring them in at a later time but still put on HOLD. Then dont do it.OR do it ONLINE. I have just put 3 of my cars on HOLD ONLINE. Easy. Way faster than wasting my time & gas going to the shops.

driver_shuddupowh, Jun 8, 5:06 am

You can cancel, but you are then liable for licensing fees for the entire period your car was off the road (been there, done that).

driver_hutchk, Jun 8, 7:33 am

Note the word MAY. Not WILL, MUST etc.

driver_mgmad, Jun 8, 7:57 am


I have 4 cars on hold & still have all my plates. & just last week renewed them on hold & was not asked to hand plates in.
Hahahahahaha. so you're saying they're going to scrap all the p/plates on hold!,. Tui!

driver_guider1, Jun 8, 8:28 am


According to NZTA Palmerston (who I spoke with last week when re-holding 4 cars); if you put it back on the road within 3 months you will be charged back reg. Any longer period & this doesnt apply.

driver_guider1, Jun 8, 8:31 am

I don't need to. I don't work on opinions of others - only fact.

Here's the fact:
http://legislation.govt.nz/regulation/public/2011/0079/latest/DLM2938344.html

"The Registrar may require the registered person, or the person acting on the registered person??ôs behalf, to surrender the registration plate or plates of the motor vehicle for the duration of the exemption."

"If the registration plate or plates are surrendered, the Registrar must, on expiry of the exemption, return the surrendered plate or plates or, where that is not reasonably practicable, a duplicate plate or plates."

Given that they don't even store suspended licence cards because it's not 'reasonably practical', it's somewhat difficult to believe they're going to store any registration plates they require to be surrendered.

driver_crzyhrse, Jun 8, 10:17 am

I don't need to. I don't work on opinions of others - only fact.

Here's the fact:
http://legislation.govt.nz/regulation/public/2011/0079/latest/DLM2938344.html

"The Registrar may require the registered person, or the person acting on the registered person??ôs behalf, to surrender the registration plate or plates of the motor vehicle for the duration of the exemption."

"If the registration plate or plates are surrendered, the Registrar must, on expiry of the exemption, return the surrendered plate or plates or, where that is not reasonably practicable, a duplicate plate or plates."

Given that they don't even store suspended licence cards because it's not 'reasonably practical', it's somewhat difficult to believe they're going to store any registration plates they require to be surrendered.

driver_crzyhrse, Jun 8, 10:17 am

Please point out where it says anything to the effect of "Your plates will only have to be surrendered if NZTA has good reason to confiscate them".

driver_crzyhrse, Jun 8, 10:19 am

Quick, round up Betty-Sue, Billy-Bob, and get some pitchforks.Lets form a lynch mob - again.

driver_kcf, Jun 8, 11:00 am

Why do people confuse MAY with MUST! Sheesh.

driver_quickbuck, Jun 8, 12:59 pm

Just to add fuel to the fire my solicitor tells me that as a legal term the word "may" canmean "shall".If the "hold" is done on line are we now going to have a visit from a "plate collector".The mind boggles.My opinion is get caught driving aon a "hold" plate then you will loose it, car in back shed on blocks is never going to loose its plates.

driver_supernova2, Jun 8, 2:31 pm

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driver_kcf, Jun 8, 2:35 pm

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