Euro Vans

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3tomany, Dec 29, 9:46am
you are turning out to be a dick i told you i have been there and that is the truth

savanna71, Dec 29, 9:51am
Ad hominem, doesnt dispel my assumptions

thejazzpianoma, Dec 29, 9:51am
To be honest, I am not qualified to answer that one. No offence intended here but the question is a bit like "how tight should I tighten the head bolts on a 4 Cylinder engine" the answer will be similar but not the same for each engine.
"Common Rail" is just a new design type not a specific engine so each manufacturer may deal with filtration differently. The best very new designs I believe have a very efficient 3 stage filtration system that will remove even small amounts of emulsified water.
Certainly careful attention should be paid to the manufacturers service recommendations with regard to filters and inspection. Also be aware that not all replacement filters are created equal so stick with OEM.
A Diesel mechanic could likely tell you more, especially if you post what vehicle and engine this is.
Sorry thats probably not the useful answer you were looking for!

3tomany, Dec 29, 9:58am
yip thanks jazz original filter are best and after that water incident i spoke of my mechanic sent me a new set of three filters and a diesol conditioner and that cost me 350 bucks so proves how crutial the right filters are

3tomany, Dec 29, 9:59am
na im not that bright

savanna71, Dec 29, 10:01am
This confirms my earlier post

3tomany, Dec 29, 10:05am
you spelled homonym wrong. yes i had to look it up but it is still meaningless to a highschool dropout like me keep it simple please lol

savanna71, Dec 29, 10:08am
No, its spelt correctly. Post like these make me believe you may in fact still be at school

3tomany, Dec 29, 10:11am
tell me the meaning as its not in the dictionary your way and i never did high school full stop

savanna71, Dec 29, 10:12am

3tomany, Dec 29, 10:18am
thanks for that so my quotes are a logic fallicy according to wickipedia but i learnt english at my short time at school so as i said lets keep it simple for simple people like me and the poor defensless hyundai owner

3tomany, Dec 29, 10:39am

3tomany, Dec 29, 10:47am
http://www.hyundai-forums.com/155-terracan-forum/103970-crdi-injector-failure.html not much use but a common theme around filtration and sensors

owene, Dec 29, 9:52pm
Anything Euro = flashy = servicely expensive.Can't beat the Jap stuff for reliability and cheapness to run.

thejazzpianoma, Dec 29, 10:07pm
What a big load of rubbish. Its the complete opposite thats true, the Euro vans use less fuel, require less servicing and are more reliable. There are plenty of figures around to show it. Also. the Euro vans won't chop your legs off or kill you in a crash at town speeds.

Japanese vans are just a joke nowadays, completely left behind.

sr2, Dec 29, 10:14pm
That may have been true 20 years ago but there is a good reason why all us van owners are buying Euro Vans!

asa50, Dec 29, 10:53pm
Re the Hyundai some general Q's
1 Should the water warning lamp triggered or not!
2 Is there anything a general user can check in place of the warning light to prevent damage!, ie eye glass, coloured filter etc (for non Hyundai motors as well)
3 Is it feasible that despite a water warning system that there can be enough water in the motor to cause damage.
4 How do other diesels cope/signal water in the fuel!

owene, Dec 29, 11:25pm
Your mechanic will have enjoyed a big fat steak and a dozen of beer that night!

3tomany, Dec 30, 1:44am
tell me about it lol but the point is i can buy those filters at about a third of the price aftermarket but should i !

ksam, Dec 30, 2:18am
I think it's a thing people are having trouble getting their heads around, that includes me, I've always thought Euro = expensive, so I've found jazzmans stuff interesting and might even take a look at Euro. I have noticed engine size seems smaller in Mercs and VWs, any comment!

thejazzpianoma, Dec 30, 2:56am
Engine size means nothing nowadays. Other than perhaps as another indicator of who is using outdated technology.

Even in petrol engines this is the case. A little 1.2 litre petrol engine hauls around the Commodore sized Passat with ease.

The little 2.3 litre Fiat Ducato has incredible amounts of power and torque and can overcome massive air resistance to hurtle the massive brick through the atmosphere at obscene speeds ( a 2.3 Ducato is good for about 180km/h and the 3.0 litre will do over 200km/h). Yet economy is significantly better than Toyota can get out of their ancient and slow 3.0 Diesel even when paired with the tiny Hiace body.

thejazzpianoma, Jul 26, 10:50pm
Excellent observation on the displacement,

Engine size means nothing nowadays. Other than perhaps as another indicator of who is using outdated technology.

Even in petrol engines this is the case. A little 1.2 litre petrol engine hauls around the Commodore sized Passat with ease.

The little 2.3 litre Fiat Ducato has incredible amounts of power and torque and can overcome massive air resistance to hurtle the massive brick through the atmosphere at obscene speeds ( a 2.3 Ducato is good for about 180km/h and the 3.0 litre will do over 200km/h). Yet economy is significantly better than Toyota can get out of their ancient and slow 3.0 Diesel even when paired with the tiny Hiace body.

Unfortunatly though there are just so many armchair critic neanderthals who rubbish the smaller but more powerful engines without even driving them. They ignore the torque and power figures (which they don't seem to understand) and just harp on about more displacement. This is particularly prevalent in the 4WDUte segment where you can buy a 2.0 Common rail VW Amarok that tows more and climbs steeper than the 3.0 Hilux.

The other comedy argument is that the smaller engine is "more stressed" which is just utter rubbish as well. The "less stressed" Toyota 3.0 engines are far more prone to trouble, require obscene amounts of extra servicing and still don't do the crazy milage that the little Fiat and Mercedes diesels are capable of.