How do I stop a dodgy seller!

pico42, Dec 30, 7:41am
Guess we will find out, just asked on his auction with a link to this thread.
magicmat, Dec 30, 7:44am
Price is pretty low and the K's are high. I think this one would be a case of buyer beware if ever I saw it. Though the fact they know specific issues and havent noted it is a bit dodgy.
phillip.weston, Dec 30, 7:46am
have you got the auction where it was listed for $1res!
friendly_prawn, Dec 30, 7:49am
Buyer beware Im afraid. If you really want to try to do something. At the closing of the auction, ask the question"have all these issues been fixed" and post a list of issues. If the auction closes with out the seller having time to remove your post, they'll be there for the buyer to see after the auction.
My personal thoughts are, you cant go around baby sitting every one else, and the seller has a right to sell his vehicle with out mentioning the faults. Might not be morally correct, but its the way it is. You dont have to mention any faults on a vehicle when your selling it, but legally, you're not allowed to lie about the condition. You're not allowed to misrepresent it.
personally it dont think it's worth the hassle of worring about it. If some one buys it with out getting it check out first, then they are an idiot. And buyer beware prevails.
millna, Dec 30, 7:54am
I think what has happened is person you bought it off sold it to the person who is now selling it. just business i guess in the wacky world of car sales
friendly_prawn, Dec 30, 7:57am
went to check out a $1 reserve car the other day. It turned out to be a pile of crap. Looked good too as it was a low k car.
But as I knew was going to happen, lots bid on it. An out of towner won the auction and the vehicle was described as being in good condtion.
I just knew there was going to be tears after pick up.
I would love to have warned the buyer, but what do you do!
People insist on bidding on these cars with out getting them checked out.
It's a real hard one, because if your living out of town or only see the auction in the closing minutes and it looks like a good vehicle and just what you're after! Do you bid and risk it, or do you let an opportunity go by to buy the vehicle you have been looking for at a bargain price!
There's always some sucker out there thats going to bid.
mrcat1, Dec 30, 8:11am
It's a auction, you have no comeback at all with auctions, even the CGA has nothing to do with it. It is up to the purchaser to sort out condition and then its up to them whether they want to bid, why are you going to report him! He has done nothing wrong, he is within his rights to sell it at a auction as it is. If you don't like to buy vehicles this way go to a registered car dealer, don't cause problems for someone going about their legal business.
phillip.weston, Dec 30, 8:13am
yes but we can prove that the seller is deliberately mis-leading bidders by not disclosing the problems which he was made completely aware of on the auction that he purchased the vehicle from. When asked if the car has any issues, he simply just says "I don't know sorry come check it out".
mrcat1, Dec 30, 8:21am
I think you will find he is still in the clear by stating for buyers to go and look, if they think it is then suitable for them and their use and they bid then its their problem. The other thing is that it has a warrant otherwise advertised as " As is, Where is" then there is no comeback either. If you hit Buy Now you have some protection but if you bid then the CGA doesn't come into play.
millna, Dec 30, 8:29am
it's probably none of your business, as it is somebody else selling the vehicle. the current seller may not know the extent of the vehicles problems. as the $1 res auction was full of might bes and non commital problems
mrcat1, Dec 30, 8:34am
OOhhh now I see what your meaning Phillip, how do you know they haven't fixed the problems! I'm not condoning what hes doing if he's ripping someone off but I also don't like people running around being busy bodies dobbing everyone in without all the facts. He may have fixed the problems but it has a new warrant and thats all that is required legally.
chattterbox, Dec 30, 9:53am
Thanks for thoughts, people. To clarify things - I had a mechanical inspection done by a garage we trusted (on the isuzu). outcome was RUN AWAY! a massive list of faults. The original seller was leaving the country, so relisted as $1R being upfront about issues (was a really good bloke about it to be honest).

The facts as stated on current auction aren`t correct,so I asked the seller what the story is (i.e. have the issues been addressed), otherwise it was a pretty dodgy thing to do, selling it as is where-is.

Will see what he comes back with - mrcat1, if he`s done more than slap a dodgy WOF on it before relisting I`mm sure he will say something along those lines. free market thriving on open exchange of information and capital and all that.

As others have said, I feel that unless the identified issues have been addressed (in which case there is no reason not to say so- Its a seling point after all, the seller should come clean.

I`ll just watch the action with interest.
mrcat1, Dec 30, 10:15am
What you have to remember is it is a auction, the CGA has no legal standing with auctions, whether what he is doing is right or wrong it is stilla auction and vehicles have to either have a warrant or be " As is Where is"
He could blacklist you or even worse make a complaint to trade me that you are trying to discredit or disrupt his auction, he has every right to and you end up with the one who gets banned or warned. I know the law sucks and you have to be carefull what you buy thru auction but thats how the law stands. I have another company and i import some high end specialist electronics from the states, i sell them either as a auction or buy now which is covered under the CGA, but i will still honour the 2 year warranty either way they are bought.
curlcrown, Dec 30, 10:28am
I stopped reading it at the first line. You do not it the buy now conditional to anything. Buy now means buy now, unconditional!
male_timaru, Dec 30, 10:44am
It actually doesn't matter how it is sold at the end of the day - if you ask a question and it is answered falsely it is misleading and you CAN get either your money back OR the vehicle repaired and the seller to pay for repairs to be done - that is the LAW
usdefault, Dec 30, 11:58am
Agreed.You can't hit buy now conditional on your mechanics report, it's not how auctions work.
amberjandal, Jul 25, 8:18am
Dont get involved is my opinion , once you do you are.Leave him to deal the way he wants to. Karma has a funny way of weeding out dodgy sellers and buyers.