mark petch wayne anderson and gary pederson are forming a new racing series that will not be part of motorsport nz teir 1 championship series it aparantly will have 7.0ltr chevy engines and 12 teams have sighned up 6 ford, 6 holden watch this space
ginga4lyfe,
Mar 4, 1:40pm
oh wow more v8's, just what we don't need, bigger of the same variation, I wish different motor sports took more limelight rather than expensive exclusive motorsports
twink19,
Mar 4, 1:47pm
like sports sedans, tranam etc,cant see it lasting as costs would be huge
#5 - Yes, Owen Evans' son. Probably one of our next potential international stars.
ginga4lyfe - totally agree. Getting totally fed up with all this one/two make nonsense.I am totally disenchanted with Tier 1 but this isn't a breakaway.
I'd rather save up all my money and do just one meeting a year - the Goodwood Revival.
chris_051,
Mar 4, 6:56pm
Bring back the old days, NZ Touring cars from the 1990s, 2.0l Primeras, BMW 318i, Lexus IS200, Accords, Coronas, and the Holden and Ford V8s, now that was some real racing suited to our tight kiwi circuts.
3tomany,
Mar 4, 7:05pm
aparantly its open to all makes but only ford and holden so far so its not there fault other motorcompanies dont want to entertain motorsport fans. it will be close to v8 supercar power with 410kw so way better for our drivers to make it to the big league
socram,
Mar 4, 7:20pm
#9 - I get your drift totally. Once motorsport worldwide adopted a hard crash helmet, seat belts, fire resistant overalls and even a rudimentary roll over protection, 90% of the safety was sorted.From that point on, it is the law of diminishing returns and you will never have 100% guaranteed safety - ever.
Increasing the size of main hoop tubes from 38mm to 40mm isn't going to improve safety at all and the majority of niggly rule changes are just that.Niggly.
In over 40 years of a fairly active involvement in the sport, the sport has lost far more participants to niggly rules than to failed or inadequate safety equipment.
It didn't save Rodger Freeth or Peter Brock and the (slightly) more modern rules wouldn't have saved them either.
#11 - Aren't current V8 rules based on Aussies -"Locally Assembled"!
3tomany,
Mar 4, 7:27pm
thats them the only question is what happens to the current series because this looks way better
socram,
Mar 4, 8:02pm
Exactly right pollymay. The safety onus is on the driver first and foremost. The worst race accident I had was avoiding a car that was on its roof in the middle of the track (Pukekohe).Why was it on its roof!Metal fatigue on a critical suspension component even though the driver was one of the few who had most of his stuff crack tested.Too bad. I demolished both ends of my car and that is a risk I take.
MOTORSPORT IS DANGEROUS.Always has been and always will be.Dean Fulford's Porsche at Pukeohe (as mentioned on here before), Stray wheels at Wellington street race & at Speedway.
Burned out V8 at Pukekohe because driver forgot to turn off kill switch and the fire crew had to do a full lap before dealing with it.
Owen Evan's land speed record accident - tyre!
Most accidents are freaky and as long as drivers are sensible, (most are) it is a risk they all take - willingly.Life without risk is no life at all.The difference is that for most of us, it is a calculated risk.
fordcrzy,
Mar 4, 8:15pm
don't even get me started on the STUPID manz regs which prevent "weekend racers" from modifying their road cars to a road/race level without turning it into a 95% race car. and regs which are so inflexible that they make cars nearly impossible to comply because of the basic measurements of the car. (like MX5's)
kevymtnz,
Mar 4, 8:19pm
i love the ole pre 65 races
singing1,
Mar 4, 8:33pm
I noticed a great T shirt at last weekends Chrome Fest which said. "Remember when sex was safe and motor racing was dangerous" Had to laugh.By the way I thought the festival was an excellent concept and hopefully gets more punters next time.
socram,
Mar 5, 6:58am
Pity #6 deleted.I am sure he'd have something of value to add to this thread, especially the above posts.
I took my car off the road and track for three years due to stupid rules - but it is not all MSNZ's fault.Part of the problem is the government departments who decided at one stage that full harness belts for example, couldn't be used on the roads at all!
Explain that one.The authority card then turned into a joke, compounded by an adherence to the so called expiry dates of the belts.I say so called, as ironically, road belts do not expire, even though they are thinner, narrower and in many cases, manufactured to a far lower standard.
Insisting that a harness belt that had sat in a box for three or four years whilst the car was being built/restored etc, or even on a dealer's shelf, was somehow converted to unsafe scrap, was a farce.
However when my belts 'expired' I fitted one new belt to the approved standard only for it to fall apart the day after when the turn buckle fell off, proving that even so called race belts built to a so called higher standard may not be any better!(I could have been trapped in the car as the release catch had rolled into the footwell and I couldn't reach it.I had to drive in reverse and slam on the brakes to get it to roll back so that I could refit it and release the catch .
Having replaced a belt, to one of a different brand, I was supposed to submit my car for an examination just because the brand had changed! At that point I parked it.I returned the faulty belt, refitted the old and just did an occasional track day instead of competing.
Now there is an extension of life on FIA belts of 5 years, but that only happened after a lot of people grizzled about it and then the Aussies saw how stupid the expiry date really was.MSNZ took some time, but later, fell into line.I can 't see me ever needing another belt now and the car is back on track - but not the road.Can't be bothered with authority cards or a rego for about three hundred road kms a year.
elect70,
Mar 5, 11:06am
Why not bring in ex aussie super V8like ran forkonica series , at least a season old,save on R&D costs,parts etc . Then those wishing to stay with NZV7 can become V8 liteslike we used to have . Just a thought but will sponsors go for it !
esprit,
Mar 5, 12:54pm
socram. Harnesses are legal on the road, so long as they were a factory fitment and are type approved. I have this argument with the WOF guys every 6 months.
They can be "expired" and are still fine for the road indefinitely. it's just for competition use they need to be in-date (or within 5 years of expiry for FIA regs)
socram,
Mar 5, 1:13pm
Fair comment esprit.They weren'ta factory option for my car (adjustable shocks were) but when it was restored, back in 1993, we did away with the puny welded on tabs to which the lap & diagonals were attached, and instead, plated, tubed and threaded the spaceframe chassis, for harnesses only, but somehow, that makes it less safe than the 40 year old originals.Aaaargh!
fordcrzy,
Mar 5, 2:52pm
if you get belts that have the standards approval tag instead of the FIA tag then they don't expire. i have some harnesses that have the standards tag. Yay for me.
robertsons-nes,
Mar 5, 5:03pm
"I took my car off the road and track for three years due to stupid rules - but it is not all MSNZ's fault. Part of the problem is the government departments who decided at one stage that full harness belts for example, couldn't be used on the roads at all!"
yes but just think of the public servant that managed to jusitfy his job for 6 months or probably more by reveiwing the full harness belts
socram,
Mar 5, 7:02pm
#28Probably 2" belts, not 3"!I have a set of the Euro belts with no expiry, for the project V8.
socram,
Jun 19, 11:57pm
Hampton Downs today - free admission.IRC Series - which is what the Tier 1 should really be.$20 tomorrow.Over 220 cars and includes pre 65s and real big bangers.
Pity about the weather. Wet here, north of the bridge.
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