containing the fantastic classic and exotic cars and massive auto memorabilia stock and collections of Gavin Bain, who I understand is pleading with the govt and authorities not to demolish it before all can be removed. If this is correct, this is utter madness on the part of officialdom and a major part of NZ's motoring heritage would be lost forever.
petemun,
Mar 8, 1:13pm
lol what planet are you on
loose.unit8,
Mar 8, 1:40pm
I'm sure there would be plenty of volunteers, if they asked! Sign a waver and away we go
moosie_21,
Mar 8, 1:56pm
I'd do it, as long as I got to keep one after! You're right, if it can be salvaged and someones got the balls to go in there and do it, why not!
fordkiwi27,
Mar 8, 2:09pm
il do it!
pollymay,
Mar 8, 2:09pm
The owner needs to just go in there an do it. Or any other individual with a pair down there. Forget this "oh noes we must listen" crap. I've dealt with volunteer firefighters and stuff and some of them are afraid of their goddamn shadows. Same with officials/police and you've gotta do things yourself in the end. You get a few egotistic "team leaders" that try to put saving liability over everything else and they tend to play overlord and speak hypothetical situations like it's some kind of unavoidable prediction.
Round up some locals or something.
richardmayes,
Mar 8, 2:16pm
I wouldn't risk my life to save someone else's car. there's no survival suit that will help if a ton of bricks decides to come down on you!
Let the owner in to have a go at getting his stuff out, just make sure everyone else is standing well back!
thejazzpianoma,
Mar 8, 2:20pm
What sort of building is it (i.e single or multi story, brick etc) and how badly is it damaged! Can they get a big door open without it collapsing so cars can even be removed!
thejazzpianoma,
Mar 8, 2:29pm
Crickey,looking at it on streetview, that could be a real nasty one if it has substantial damage. Multi story, brick/masonry and very old.
---before the quake. Yep, an old historic CBD building. TR's, Ferraris, Jags, Allard, Morgan, Maserati, plus the best books and models in the country. etc., etc., known the world over.
He may very well have cars in there, as he does, worth millions apiece. Hope wrecker Brownlee can be persuaded to do something to help.
intrade,
Mar 8, 2:39pm
you could easy stay under a bucket of a 50 ton digger to be save when the building wants to collapse on top of you.As i said once before and got flammed for it. the country is full of schilbürger . villagemorons. they try and chatch light in bags to see inside a building the built without windows. that is how this whole chrischurch disaster is handeled http://images.zeno.org/Bildpostkarten/I/big/MPK03206.jpg
smac,
Mar 8, 2:47pm
I'm all for preserving history, but there were people injured (killed!) inside buildings this time around that were damaged in the first quake. You think they now think it was worth it!
SO at what point do you say "hey it's just stuff, let it go". Surely people are more valuable.
rsr72,
Mar 8, 2:48pm
Not necessarily.
rsr72,
Mar 8, 3:09pm
Yep, it's well-collapsed, but he has the money to pay for experts to salvage it, if the officialdom idiots see some commonsense in allowing it to be done. The wrecker's have started up all over the CBD today.
socram,
Mar 8, 3:24pm
Life is a risk.A calculated risk to rescue history is a calculated risk I'd be prepared to take, even on Gavin Bain's behalf, and for no reward.
Sure beats the tree huggers trying to save an obnoxious weed like a Pohutakawa tree or a crummy shed on the Auckland wharf.
a18a,
Mar 8, 3:34pm
send someone with cancer in, they're gonna die soon anyway
kaymay88,
Mar 8, 3:36pm
this reminds me of an interesting conversation I had the other day. A friend of mine owns a motorcycle shop, one of the bigger ones in town. He was talking about what happens when the cleanup begins. its like this: a shop full of motorcycles gets destroyed in the earthquake, the walls and roof etc are completely muffed, the shop needs to be torn down. everything becomes a write off. The insurance company contracts a demolitions/scap/salvage company to do the cleanup. Now, the way these contracts work is that the contractor who gets the job, effectively owns all the contents, thats part of how they make their money, by onselling scrap metal etc that the take out of the building as they demolish. This means that the company who gets the cleanup contract effectively owns all the stock in the shop. . .
Now seems like a good time to get into salvage doesnt it!
rsr72,
Mar 8, 3:51pm
The odd Jaguar D Type, Bugatti, and Ferrari GTO/F40 notwithstanding.!
socram,
Mar 8, 3:52pm
The problem is that the sort of stuff that Fazzaz has, is in many cases, irreplaceable.A BMW dealer might lose a lot of stock, but everything in the building would easily be replaced.
How on earth do you value history!I made a feeble attempt to value just one shelf of my better books - some of which are autographed by the likes of Graham Hill, Mike Hailwood etc. Being realistic, I had to sit down and take it easy when I realised just how much they were worth in total, going on recent sales history!
Letting the owners rescue the stuff makes a lot more sense than destroying it as it reduces the insurance claims - and lets face it, we are all going to face a massive hike in all our insurance premiums over the next year or two - those of us who pay anyway.
sw20,
Mar 8, 4:03pm
The people I were staying with while I had no power or water know Gavin. The husband phoned him to see if he was ok and was the shop ok. The top two floors caved in however the bottom floor with all the books and cars seemed to be ok. A few things fell over but getting the cars out will be rather hard with the vehicle entrance being behind the building next to Sol square.
If the vehicle entrance is too dangerous they would have to pull one of the windows out and fit some ramps.
Sad thing is.most of those cars in there are being sold on behalf.
rsr72,
Mar 8, 4:11pm
Are any of his personal cars stored in there!
sw20,
Mar 8, 4:14pm
I don't think he had any personal cars in there at the time. His F40 certainly wasn't.
I was in there just before the Skope Classic on the 4th of Feb and it wasn't there.
rsr72,
Mar 8, 4:49pm
That'll be good news if so.
ginga4lyfe,
Mar 8, 5:02pm
Ill only go in that building for the TR4, the Ferrari and the Jag e-type, the rest are acceptable losses :P
dr.doolittle,
Mar 8, 6:16pm
LOL, I had to laugh at the black humor. Even if I had the big'C' I'd still laugh.
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