May have to hand in plates?

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nathanmac, Apr 6, 2:36pm
Maye they should just go back to coloured rego labels which make it plainly visible whether a car is up to date or not!

johnf_456, Apr 6, 2:37pm
Thats utter crap this article, personally if people are found abusing it with the rego on hold thing like sw20 that make them hand in the plates. Not punish everyone because if the careless actions of a few, meanwhile people that pay there way have to pay for the bludgers.
Punish repeat offenders not every man and his dog.

ginga4lyfe, Apr 6, 3:20pm
I got a Better Idea for people wanting to put cars/bikes on hold, if they do so, they should be given a sticker to clearly identify the cars that are on hold that way no one loses the plate, but people are forced to display that the car is illegally on the road IF they are on the road, and fined heavily if a car is pulled over found to be on hold with out the sticker, unless good reason permits the car to be on the road( like getting work done, or transfer from one workshop to another, but then again thats what dealer/workshop plates are used for )

nathanmac, Apr 6, 3:40pm
i wouldn't put that sticker on just to take it for a warrant - waste of paper glue and elbow grease to remove it.

maybe people who just keep driving unlicensed cars need them confiscated - driving is a privilege not a right after all.it's not a hard to stay within the confines of the law after all.

bitsy_boffin, Apr 6, 4:01pm
johnf and nathanmac obviously only have one vehicle.

Those of us who have more than one vehicle, have two choices:

a) we can pay for registration of them all, paying extremely expensive ACC components multiple times, even though we can only operate one vehicle at any given time

b) put all but the daily driver on hold and take our chances, while still paying motor vehicle ACC levies by way of the #1 vehicle, still paying for use of the road through both the rego on #1 vehicle and the taxes on petrol for the other vehicles (including non road going ones).

I know which option I take.

johnf_456, Apr 6, 4:07pm
Untrue bitsy, kind of goes with your name here. I do not just have one car Ipersonally have 3 vehicles and 2 trailers so go figure instead of spouting shit. While I agree with you about the cost of registration breaking the law and driving a vehicle while on hold is not the way of going about it. Very dump and responsible on people that actually pay there rego like me for anything on the road. If its not being used its on hold.

If everyone thought like you and decided to not pay rego we would all pay through the roof for it to be legit more so than what we do now. Do share why its wrong to tackle the people doing this rather than inconveniencing everyone for the actions of a few.

tuttyclan, Apr 6, 4:25pm
So is the $12 for the day or for the week and the car would need to be currently WOFed to get the licence.

nathanmac, Apr 6, 4:28pm
i don't follow you there. I have four cars (one modern and 3 older than 40 years).I don't always have them all registered for the road, so don't want to have to hand in old black plates or waste time mucking around with pointless paperwork.i also do my best to stick within the confines of the law and don't run them unless registered.i just make a decision as to when i'll register which vehicle to run.

you can't knowingly break the law then moan about others.if everyone at least tried to stick to the law and common sense, then laws wouldn't need to be so strict and penalties would be less.

bitsy_boffin, Apr 6, 4:54pm
Only partly correct.You can licence a vehicle for a single day, sure (MR27 or is it 72, one or the other), but the times it is on hold in between are still a minimum of 3 months I understand, if you put it on hold and then bring it back before the 3 months is up, you pay that backdated time.

CVLS should be largely gutted, we should have CDLS instead, aContinuous DRIVER Licence System, each year we should pay $X for the maintenance of our licence which would cover the ACC component based on the classes of licence you exercise (or better, a single flat ACC rate per person, like how ACC was supposed to be in the first place).

Vehicle licencing would only contain specific charges for road maintenance necessary to support that type of vehicle.

Of course, it will never happen, because it's a cash cow how it's setup presently, not just for central government and ACC, but for local government also.

johnf_456, Apr 6, 4:56pm
Well said also

smac, Apr 6, 5:13pm
Holy crap calm down the lot of you, it's a media blurb, not draft legislation. There's bound to be inaccuracies, ambiguities and incomplete info, it's what they do at the cost of breaking the news first.

None of you seriously believe that in the current public sector climate where the PM is talking about slashing staff numbers and budgets, that they're going to pay for and administer a system where every single vehicle on exemption has to physically hand in plates.do you!

im_andrew, Apr 6, 7:13pm
Demerit points should be handed out to drivers with no WOF, not to drivers with no rego. Bullshit laws only to fill the govts. pockets, rather than make the roads safer

weasle, Apr 6, 8:19pm
Better still, don't require cars to be registered at all. If you have a drivers license register the driver.I don't know about you but I can only drive one car on the road at a time and yet if I own 3 cars (one everyday car & some classics that get driven occasionally) I am paying a huge amount of money, mostly made up of A.C.C.component of car registration for each car but I can only have a vehicle accident in one car on the road at any given time. Seems a bit unfair to me.

johnf_456, Apr 6, 9:25pm
Give the man a beer

pollymay, Apr 6, 9:32pm
This law will be more tears for those that don't deserve it like every other blooming thing they bring in. There was a speedcamera at the end of my street today as well dropping his tolerances outside the playcentre that wasn't even open just after a speed change zone. I told him to piss off and he did, I felt that tiny bit better after that cause the guy that mans the van is a wank.

Anyhoo carry on.

kcf, Apr 7, 6:42am
Hey now, there's no need to come onto a message board, and try to be rational . that'd be like turning up to a Jenny Craig meeting pushing a trolley full of cream buns.

;-)

big.b-lil.c, Apr 7, 6:51am
in a legal document may and must mean the same thing. so if you have a vehicle on hold you must hand your plates in and i assume pay a fee to get new plates when you re license. just wait i bet the fee for new plates goes up to over $250 just to stop people like me who dont license (or use) there second car over winter. the crims will to steel even more number plates

pollymay, Apr 7, 8:16am
Some people park their classics outside the garage when they are restoring them. A cop will slap a no rego sticker to it eventually if the timing is right and then it becomes a hassle to the innocent old guy and his years long project. Almost every law they bring in is misused somehow.

thejazzpianoma, Apr 7, 1:08pm
Yes and parking wardens. It should be perfectly fine to temporarily park your project in the carpark outside your house from time to time. No harm is being done to anyone, its just used as an excuse to collect money and points.

I just can't believe people are so happy to sit back and let their rights slowly get eroded away by the Government and be bogged down in endless compliance nonsense. The Government and its departments work for us, not the other way around, people need to wake up to that.

Great to see someone called and got the low down on the main issue here though well done. Bullet dodged for the moment.

smac, Apr 7, 1:29pm
Not correct. Discretionary powers are given in this manner all the time. Plenty of authorities have powers they may choose to enforce, but don't.

roys351, Oct 8, 4:17am
if they made regos a more realistic fee it wouldent get abused as much. my rego ran out today food or rego ! i live rural no buses or trains around here