Took car in for WOF (not to my usual mechanic but to one near where I work), went to collect car and he said if failed, perished brake hoses.Hmm I said that surprises me, as we have not long brought the car and I had a full mechanical pre purchase inspection done.So took the car to our usual mechanics, to get repairs done and said the car has failed WOF, he checked the brake hoses along with another mechanic, and guess what, they are fine and issued a WOF. Maybe if I was a bloke he wouldn't have tried to say the car need unnecessary repairs!
tonyrockyhorror,
Jan 28, 12:56pm
Or maybe the new guy is simply more pedantic and your usual guy a bit too casual. not everything is black & white.
attitudedesignz,
Jan 28, 12:57pm
Unfortunately this does still happen.
Before i met my partner her WOF would ALWAYS come with a $400-$500 invoice attached, now when i take her car in there's never anything wrong (apart from normal little wear/tear items)
attitudedesignz,
Jan 28, 12:59pm
In the case of ladies/women/females and cars needing things done i'm pretty sure it is.
wright7,
Jan 28, 1:06pm
Some how I don't think so, I would assume "perished"' is not a grey area, its either perished or it's not, so now do I go back to the place that failed the car and ask for an explanation and my $50 back! The guy that failed me is a one man band, the garage I usually go to has around 10 mechanics, The service manager and a mechanic checked the car and both agreed nothing was wrong.
tonyrockyhorror,
Jan 28, 1:26pm
One can easily mistake the porous surface of a rubber for perished when in fact it's not. One might also consider inconsequential a degree of surface perishing that another might consider a problem.
Like I said, it's not black and white.
tonyrockyhorror,
Jan 28, 1:26pm
Yes, but that's not to say it definitely was in this case.
mohaka,
Jan 28, 2:26pm
Easy money,quite a common thing that garages try on you.Bend the hose back to look for cracks in the rubber,often the hose has a fine layer ofhardened grime on it which looks the part.Give the hose good clean and scrub and it passes.
franc123,
Jan 28, 3:22pm
Actually it is very black and white. The VIRM clearly states that only deterioration of the hose materials to the point where the reinforcing underneath is exposed is the only grounds for failure, apart from obvious otherproblems like bulging, leaks from the crimps, unions, cuts or other impact damage etc. The OP could go through NZTAs complaints process if they wish if its obvious the fail wasnt justified, the AVIC should have this info displayed where customers can see it easily, if they havent then complain about that too
moosie_21,
Jan 28, 3:28pm
Simple, never go there again, keep with your trusted garage!
andy61,
Jan 28, 4:23pm
I never let my partner and my sister take their cars in for a for a WOF,they would get turned down everytime ,just imagine the cost of unnecessary repair bills.
tonyrockyhorror,
Jan 28, 5:11pm
And equally so if the pass wasn't justified. Perhaps he simply missed it.
We have no first hand knowledge - only conjecture of someone who knows nothing - on which to go on. I simply offered alternative scenarios to the claim"the first guy was a crook". You, of all people, should appreciate that.
wright7,
Jan 28, 5:41pm
I provided the failed WOF report,so they we clearly aware of what it failed for.They confirmed that there was no bulging, no cracks nothing, and agreed he was just trying it on.This is a large workshop so I don't think they would risk giving a WOF in these circumstances.I will be giving him the paperwork for the passed WOF and asking for a refund.
jmma,
Jan 28, 6:04pm
You pay for the WOF check, not the Wof, pass or fail you pay. In my opinion he did the WOF check, so no refund is due. By all means you may want to let him know what he did wrong, but not really worth the hassle, just move on.
tonyrockyhorror,
Jan 30, 9:22am
Well worth the hassle. If for nothing else other than protecting the integrity of the honest guys.
Take the car back to him. Ask him to point out what he failed it on. If he refuses, lodge a complaint with the NZTA.
un_known,
Jan 30, 9:44am
vtnz seem to be a bit pedantic on brake hoses. but i just replaced them and carry on.i'd much rather take my car somewhere thats tough rather than somewhere lax. just because its compliant doesnt mean its safe and vice versa.and when it comes to brakes its better to be safe than sorry.
antony,
Jun 1, 1:11am
Happened to me a while ago, only just got a resolution basically through same process as OP.
#16: I used to think like that but no more! vtnz hung on the brake hoses enough to pull them through their securing clamps exposing a section of clean rubber - presumably for similar reasons to trick #8, then because they couldn't fail them and perhaps felt bad at what they had done, told (and wrote) to replace before next warrant. What other reason is there for ripping and wrenching at brake hoses? Safer to not get a warrant in that case.
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