Our we gunna impruv thins aroun ere?

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realtrader1, May 10, 5:20pm
An exaggeration yes, clearly, but, what suggestions are there to try to lift the general standard of spelling and grammar etc.This is all very technical stuff but then this is a very technical place, this motoring message board.

a.woodrow, May 10, 5:21pm
Most of the regulars posting here are fine, usually it's the one off question askers we can't understand

foxdonut, May 10, 5:21pm

gammelvind, May 10, 5:55pm
I wish all posters could improve their spelling and grammer, but the reality is that many in the motor industry were never the dux of the english course in school, but they know their stuff as far as things mechanical.
While some posters may find stringing their words together and in the right order difficult, please do not deter them from coming here and profering their advice.

rob_man, May 10, 6:03pm
Grammar
Proffering.

gammelvind, May 10, 6:07pm
Lol, english was my worst subject at school, and the spell checker on this ipad is just a real PIA.

rob_man, May 10, 6:10pm
I see posters making the same mistakes over and over, even when the correct form appears in a following post. This leads me to the conclusion that the ones who get it wrong think the other guy is wrong. How do you compete with that!
Here's a lesson in getting "definitely" right. It is based around the word "finite", we all know what that is, right!
From that comes "infinite", meaning without limits or bounds, "definite", meaning with a defining limit.
It does not contain the letter A.

nightboss, May 10, 6:30pm
I am glad you bought this two our atention. Its bean gettin worst and worst lateley, i don't no what can be dun as most peple is jus hitin the keys the same as dey speek.

If we correct every grammatical error we face ridicule for being pedantic. Yet if we do nothing we are by omission adding to the slide of our written language standards.

andrewph, May 10, 6:33pm
Ivedecidednottousespacesbetwee-
nthewordsanymoreasittakesuptoo-
muchroomonthepage. LOL

foxdonut, May 10, 6:38pm
Languages are amorphous and change over time.

Just putting it out there.

jmma, May 10, 7:23pm
"Invasion of the Nerds" springs to mind (o:

nightboss, May 10, 7:43pm
Why miss Frankie, whatever do you mean. *blush*

realtrader1, May 10, 7:48pm
Yes, that is what people say.However, that's not to say that all change is change for the better.Take cars for example.Who would not agree that cars have not changed over time!Yet who would agree that every change has been a change for the better!Look for example at the mixed message of 'green technology'.Yet, how 'green' is it when we no longer repair but rather replace,I'm sure we can all think of examples.

And then there is the problem of laziness.Everyone ought to agree that if precision is important in a car engine it's even more important in our writing and speaking, without which, precision goes out the window.

nightboss, May 10, 7:54pm
Hear, hear.
A round of applause for that man please.

foxdonut, May 10, 9:06pm
You're not casting your net wide enough.

Yeah sure, we don't repair car parts as much, but because of this, literally thousands of people get to eat.

Of all these people, at least one of them is going to have a good idea, start a business and employ more people or discover something that furthers humanity as a whole.

You guys sit here bleating about something trivial like spelling on a messageboard, completely ignorant of the hundreds of thousands of people that make the technology you're using possible to do it.

I'd wouldn't hesitate to bet that at least one of them substitutes the numeral two for the word "to".

realtrader1, May 11, 4:29pm
One of my points is, perhaps stated differently, that replacement is not in line with reduce, reuse, recycle.But anyway, that's an aside.When we all think about it: how could anyone be against precision in our use of words.Surely, we can be precise, yet still friendly and kind!Logically, why would anyone oppose that!Spelling, grammar and all those little bits like commas, full stops, exclamation marks, speech marks, tense, pronouns and adjectives that are not expletives are all to conversation what quality oil is to a quality engine.They go together don't they!

foxdonut, May 11, 4:41pm
The Japanese do fine without half the complexity of English.

They also make okay cars last time I checked.

Starting this thread has just been a waste of energy.

jmma, May 11, 4:47pm
Have to agree with last comment (o:

nightboss, May 11, 4:48pm
If it was a waste of energy, why did you post 4 times on this thread!
You can't wear you hat backwards and forwards at the same time Mr. Fox.

realtrader1, May 11, 6:15pm
To confirm: starting this thread has not wasted my energy.
I would have thought that whether or not the Japanese do well or not was irrelevant, surely.We have a language.Sure it's made up of many other languages but that's what we have.It is mine.I presume it is yours too.As such, it's up to the users of a given language to know and use it, well, at least, as well as they can, given age and other factors.I mean, that's how you make yourself understood.It helps you not to make a fool of yourself and it helps you to stay financially afloat.Yes, communicate one thing when you mean another can in fact be rather expensive.I am rather surprised to be writing these things.I would have thought it was unnecessary but that's okay if it's useful.Are there other people out there who think that this all makes sense!

jmma, May 11, 6:19pm
Nah, shoulda bean a couple of paragraphs (o:

savanna19, May 11, 6:20pm
i just couldnt bother reading any posts wast of effot this thread sorry

kaymay88, May 11, 6:31pm
I Think more people would rather transparency in the warnig and banning processes.
Its a joke the way some people are warned etc because of people who run to the email to whinge every time someone else states an opinion that differs from their own, or makes a joke they dont like etc

savanna19, May 11, 6:41pm
stop it

flitt, May 11, 6:57pm
I don't agree that there is a confusion of meaning when native English speakers, who have lesser writing skills, make their usual bungles.

It might look a bit clumsy, but I can always understand what they mean. At the worst, I may have to look for a few moments longer. However, that can also be the case when someone with perfect grammar/spelling uses a topic specific lexicon I am not familiar with. If I don't understand what they mean, they are usually using a different language, and that includes the language 'txt'.

So, I don't really understand your point, which is, if I understand correctly, that you believe individuals who work at a precision job should show the same level of exactness and perfection with their written English as they do in their own vocation.