Has anyone ever let a vechile go and.

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cdjtrading, Jul 14, 8:52am
let it go without the change of ownership being done then 2 weeks later you get a ticket from the police in the mail for no wof and no reg the buyer says hes gunna sort this but i dunno i think im fu*ked and its not gunna get sorted.

friendly_prawn, Jul 14, 8:59am
nope not me.But then I have never been silly enough to let a car go with out making sure it was put in to the buyers name first.
Well you did ask.

flybye_in_a_rx7, Jul 14, 9:06am
yup your going to have to end up paying the fine. I have sold cars and people say i'll change it first thing tomorrow, which of course they don't get the car until they have done it. if its a weekend then you can do it online, even if i end up paying the $10 myself to make sure its done

timmo1, Jul 14, 9:09am
has anyone ever used a full stop to denote the end of one sentence and the start of another because without them it's really hard to read.

jcwholesale, Jul 14, 9:10am
Yes I have in the past. If it is a council one you need to write a letter with a copy, dated of course, showing date of sale, the persons name & address & they will redirect the ticket.
If it is from the police, there should be a statutory declaration in with the ticket, fill that out with the above info, get it signed by a JP or similar, send away and they will redirect to the correct person.
Pain in the backside I know, but it works.
Hope it helps.

flybye_in_a_rx7, Jul 14, 9:14am
yes i have

gmphil, Jul 14, 9:32am
Did u fill out grey form and post!Mr13a datedin sign u May hav chance if not break out the dosh

bellky, Jul 14, 10:08am
I thought (maybe wrongly) that if you did your part of the change of ownership (with the new owner details and yours etc.) then you will be ok as you had sold the vehicle at that stage, only the new owner had not done their part of the change of ownership.

jcwholesale, Jul 14, 10:15am
bellky wrongly I am afraid, that bit of card board is only good for filling the bin up. You still get the tickets, as the MR13C is the only way to change ownership, or online of course.

jcwholesale, Jul 14, 10:18am
cdjtrading You need to get the COO done very quickly now as the back rego will be charged to you and there is know way out of that at all.

bellky, Jul 14, 10:24am
Oh yes jcwholesale, that's what I mean, there is one part that the new owner must do but that could be out of the disposer's control.

franc123, Jul 14, 11:56am
Its common sense not to let this happen, especially in the sub $1K class.Many people buying such vehicles are disqualified drivers who have had their previous heap ordered off the road or impounded often within the last few days and are desperate to get back on the road again as quickly as possible.Whats funny is that they have no money for fines or release fees but amazingly can find the cash to buy another car. COO needs to be done before it goes out of your sight, add $10 to the purchase price and do it at home, don't believe any stories they tell you.

crosis_nz, Jul 14, 12:48pm
Once. Sold a car and two weeks later it was abandoned on Auckland motorway and I was rung (by traffic police in those days) to say I would be charged if it was not moved in 48 hours. Explained situation and told I would still be charged if not moved, but if I moved it knowing I was not the proper owner that this would be a chargeable offence too.

Basically dammed if I did - dammed if I didn't!

NEVER have fallen for this again!

supernova2, Jul 14, 7:53pm
Unless you happen to know the name and address of the "new" owner your screwed.Its been mentioned before on this MB that the other option is to deregister the car but I don't see how that is going to get you out of the present ticket - it will just stop you getting any more.

kaymay88, Jul 14, 8:08pm
nope. but it happens alot, NEVER let a vehicle go without getting it all signed off.
Go into the post office tomorrow, and get it dergistered, use the refunded rego money to compensate you for the cost of tickets is one thing you can do since its still in your name

kazbanz, Jul 15, 8:49am
Yes I have in the past -got burned .NEVER again.
Now the vehicle does not leave here untill C of O is done. end of story.

splinter67, Jul 15, 9:01am
Been done as well sold a mx6 to a wrecker in Henderson He put a new trans into it and got $2500 of fines in it. I Heard about it when the Police turned up at my house in Napier asking about the burglaries that my car had been seen at .Went back to the wreckers and they had closed so I got lumped with the fines. Now any car I sell dosent go anywhere untill I have the changed ownership papers in my hand.

cdjtrading, Jul 15, 10:18am
far out. i dont have it so bad then!
thanks everyone for your comments and ideas :)

nzfatie, Jul 15, 4:52pm
Shouldn't be a problem if the buyer signed the receipt when they bought it! Then you have proof you weren't the legal owner when the tickets were issued. Doesn't matter about the change of ownership not being done until 2 weeks later, as that's not a legally binding form, just a notice advising the NZTA the ownership HAS BEEN changed.

pebbles61, Jul 15, 5:01pm
I have, nor never will sell a car or bike until I have the change of ownership receipt in my hand. Seen/heard of too many people getting stung. If they won't do it, I won't let them drive off.

splinter67, Jul 15, 5:09pm
There is only one problem with that the ministry of justice deal with fines not Ltnz and pretty much you are f**cked as it was in your name when the fines where issued. I know I tried everything to get out of the fines that where issued to my car in the end I had to pay them net loss to me $1900.
Pay the fine before you get charged enforcement fees then chase the person for the money good luck

smac, Jul 15, 5:15pm
Actually, despite what the armchair experts here think, if the MR13A is done correctly and on time, then when the MR13B is done the change of ownership sale date will backdate to the date the MR13A was lodged. This is assuming the name and address of the buyer on both forms matches up. If this is done, local authorities and police will usually waive the infringement (well, transfer liability to the new owner).

However, I get the impression in this case the MR13A wasn't done, in which case the best they can do is write a smoochy letter.

dr.doolittle, Jul 15, 5:27pm
Just de-register the vehicle & use the rego refund to pay the fine.
Then sit back & wait to see what happens.

splinter67, Jul 15, 5:33pm
Good idea pity the ticket was for no warrant and no rego

nzfatie, Jul 15, 5:40pm
It used to be the case that the owner was responsible for the fines, then the law was changed to make the driver responsible, so these days the old owner shouldn't have to pay the new owners fines.