(or as they sometimes word it "no evidence of inspection") ! I'm after very recent cases and would like to know if it alao resulted in any demerit points.If you've had a ticket for this lately please also let me know when it was as i'm wanting to compare it to the timeframe of the introduction of demerit points being incurred for no reg etc. Cheers.
Like I said in your other thread.you're asking people to show you something that doesn't exist.
Most "no wof" infringements are given out as stationary offences (i.e. parking wardens) and even if their were demerits, there wouldn't be.
kcc55a,
Jul 10, 7:22am
Have you asked the "authorities" when they tagged No Reg. notices with demerit points!
roadkillcafe,
Jul 10, 7:35am
thanks, however neither of us can be CERTAIN that it "doesnt exist" and i'm not interested in "most" cases, i'm interested in any case of anyone incuring demerit points for a no wof ticket, and while it seems unlikely it also seems unlikely that they'd attach demerits to everything except wof so therefor i'm after actual on the road situations, not theoretical stuff from hopeless govt departments.
roadkillcafe,
Jul 10, 7:36am
cheers, see above
smac,
Jul 10, 7:43am
I don't follow you. In this country we have the fortune of having documented legislation. Yes it's open to interpretation at times but what the authorities can and can't do to you by way of sanction is in black and white. The maximum sentence for murder or theft is documented, it doesn't just come out of the judges head. The offences for which demerits are given are documented, and that is a link to it above. Check the link, that's not NZTA's website. It's NZ legislation, enacted by Order in Council.
If you cant accept that as 'being certain', then you're on you're own.
If you get a reply from somebody who says they got a ticket orno WoF, I can almost guarantee it's from a parking warden, so you'll be no better off.
Good luck.
roadkillcafe,
Jul 10, 8:10am
thanks mate. I understand your point and call me pedantic but i'm still interested in what happens out there on the street. (also baffled as to why demerits wouldnt apply to no wof)
fordgod,
Jul 10, 8:28am
Hi roadkillcafe, i had taken a falcon ute for a wof, failed on some small stuff as they do for that age. Had no WOF or rego. Got pulled over on the way back home to do the repairs. Officer was good about it ( had WOF sheet to prove that I had just been ). Got a ticket for no WOF. 01/03/2012 at 16:15, operated a private vehicle on a road when that vehicle was not displaying current evidence of vehicle inspection. He let me away with the no rego, and he stated that I would have got demerits if he issued a no rego infringement also.
flitt,
Jul 10, 8:36am
x1
Even if a police officer was crooked and wanted to give someone demerit points for an offence that does not normally include demerit points; he/she could not. End of.
Any suggestion otherwise is very likely a misunderstanding.
roadkillcafe,
Jul 10, 8:36am
finally.a real life example! Cheers, that's exactly the kind of thing i'm after. Hopefully there's no cases of actually getting demerits for no wof out there.Come to think of it, not only is it weird that there's no demerits for no wof but also how you cant relic your vehicle without current wof but if get pulled up with no wof there's no demerits (!!) yet there are for no lic.go figure.
None of which relate to the offence of failing to display current evidence of inspection. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. But that will just have to do in this case.
bellky,
Jul 10, 8:38am
Exactly. Seems like some are in search of the holy grail.
tonyrockyhorror,
Jul 10, 8:41am
Oh, BTW I've highlighted the bit that says "there are no demerit points for failing to display current evidence of inspection" in those links.
tonyrockyhorror,
Jul 10, 8:42am
Exactly. The Police do not administer the application of demerits.
bellky,
Jul 10, 8:43am
Farout man listen to the people when they tell you something.
tonyrockyhorror,
Jul 10, 8:49am
Yeah, given the amount of simple information people get completely bamboozled by on this site, you'd be wise not to listen to 'real life examples' lest they be from those sort of people.
elect70,
Jul 10, 9:55am
I see they awarddemerit points fordriving withreg on hold . thought demerit points were fordrivingoffences nottax evasion .
smac,
Jul 10, 10:32am
It's only weird if you are comparing the list of demeritable offences against (your own) incorrect criteria of why you should get demerits.
smac,
Jul 10, 10:33am
The issue is that you thought that, not that you get demerits for it.
pauldw,
Jul 10, 10:54am
You've already quoted the Legislation whereby you get 20 points if not displaying "in the manner prescribed by regulations made under this Part??
tonyrockyhorror,
Jul 10, 11:03am
Or if you believe the official line which is that demerits are there to discourage behaviour that might be contrary to road safety.
I've yet to have anyone offer a plausible explanation as to how it could possibly be 'dangerous' to operate an unlicensed vehicle. or how it's not dangerous to go through a red light.
smac,
Jul 10, 11:03am
You've lost me.
smac,
Jul 10, 11:05am
Yeah that's my point though - the "that's weird" comments from people here are because everyone seems to have this assumption that demerits are about safety. If you recognise that this is an unfounded assumption, it's not so weird at all.
tonyrockyhorror,
Jul 10, 11:09am
I'm simply saying that TPTB claim it's about safety. The majority are just stupid enough to believe that line.
tonyrockyhorror,
Jul 10, 11:12am
The fact is that demerit points and infringement fees that some people simply can't afford to pay and are excessive for purely arbitrary breaches are going to be increasingly used to control the population around things that are completely unrelated.
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