when there is absolutely no need to do so! Have been eyeing up a couple of possible projects recently and have been told that the plates have been handed in when the cars have been clearly viable to restore, and indeed have been tried to be sold as projects, not as parts or crusher material.On one of them the rego was still live but the d#*k still handed them in before trying to sell and binned the lovely old style ownership papers that used to get stamped over and over again at the post office. They obviously don't realise what a pain in the arse and expense their actions will cause the new owner in having to go through the revin and compliance bs, instantly devalues the vehicle by 500-1000$, and of course there are some of us who think reflectorised plates look ghastly and wrong on old cars compared to black and silvers.Just leave the damn things alone, even if they are lapsed pleeease! I feel like hooking up every remaining set of good old plates I see to a national electric fence grid! They can be reused now. Rant over.
pico42,
Sep 7, 5:40pm
Keyword: Idiots.
They do walk amongst us.
afer_daily,
Sep 7, 5:45pm
you think that bad/ land trans are going to charge for putting vechicles on hold starting in october .
intrade,
Sep 7, 5:52pm
cant find anything you got any links about this!
johnf_456,
Sep 7, 6:24pm
link
johnf_456,
Sep 7, 6:25pm
Well said kazbanz
johnf_456,
Sep 7, 6:25pm
Worth some petiole id rather de register than have them come back six months later saying i have a lemon
trogedon,
Sep 7, 6:51pm
OP. Yep, often the de reg. without much forethought.
franc123,
Sep 7, 6:55pm
Thanks kaz hadn't seen that. Only skim read that thread but looked like another sob story created by some twat who didn't do their homework and got a vehicle checked out properly by a pro who knows what they are doing AND about legalities. Bit tricky to prove whether the engine swap occured before or after the WOF though! The seller also displayed some ignorance there too. I can see why doing the derego thing has possibly become an attractive option when you have ignorant wallys primed with THEIR interpretation of all sorts of consumer rights and prepared to take all sorts of action against you if the 20yo half a mill km ute you sell them for a bargain basement price that they didn't check out properly doesn't carry a lifetime warranty. Even brand new vehicles aren't like that FFS. I was referring more to vehicles for restoration that may or may not have large amounts of roadworthy problems and clearly not been woffed for some time. Purchasers still need to get out of their head that a WOF isn't and never has been a guarantee of future compliance and is not a substitute for mechanical inspection.
gastirling,
Sep 7, 8:37pm
Exactly
cowlover,
Sep 7, 9:34pm
Can't see how dereg gets around the problem of an idiot coming back and saying he bought a lemon.My SIL did the dereg thing with a POS she had as she didnt wnt to pay the back rego.Took the plates off and sold car then, and only then, went to de reg and found she had to pay 11 months back reg and it was a diesel.I'm still laughing.
Stupid thing was the buyer asked about the plates and was prepared to pay the back reg but no she knew better and was determined to de reg.Cost her more to pay the back reg than she got for the POS
skin1235,
Sep 8, 6:25am
has always been part of the legislation that the fee must be current before it can be put on hold, so yep if it is 11 months behind you had to pay it to current status before applying to put it on hold the aspect of a charge to put it on hold from Oct! - isn't there a qualifier involved, not charged for first in a yearor charge applies if found to be driving ( ie larger fine) the poli's were dribbling about it a few months back but by the time they finished everyone was so confused with the double talk and slippery stuff off their lips it was flagged in public consciousness as a non event till proven
mrfxit,
Sep 8, 6:53am
Anyway . back to the title of "Why do idiots manually deregister vehicles" YEa many different reasons but some are truly stupid
Seen a few vehicles where the details have stated things like >>>
Not been used recently Using company car now so don't use this 1 Failed a wof on a ball joint OR windscreen OR tires (pick ONE) Relative left the country & wants me to sell it now (nothing wrong with the car, but dereged anyway)
kazbanz,
Sep 8, 7:17am
Jazz just read the thread link. "some idiot" comes back at her and she has stated the vehicle is as is where is suitable for parts only.
franc123,
Sep 8, 7:22am
There won't be any changes or charges re putting rego's on hold until the wider review of licensing and wof's (among other things) is completed in the next few months I'd have thought. The last part of your post makes a good case for simply dumping the whole licensing and exemption system completely and making motorists pay as they go in the form of a fuel tax. Its too complicated and too expensive to administrate. The public still don't fully understand how it works even after all these years.
elect70,
Sep 8, 10:59am
Blame the red tape brigade .Rather than have abuyer come back with abill for thousands in repairs quotingCGA he expects to be reimbursed for ,sellerderigisters it & therefore no come back as sold as a wreck .
franc123,
Sep 8, 11:22am
It would be just as easy for both parties to sign a receipt stating itssold as is where is and the buyer has assessed and is satisfied with its current condition, if they won'tagree to this then you find a buyer that will. But this doesn't, or very rarely happens. Too many people wanting the easy way out on the sellers part and nobody wanting to take responsibility for their purchasing decisions on the buyers part.
xpfairmont,
Sep 8, 11:58am
Op, sometimes people are just too tight for words. Car fails WOF (on something minor) but rego' has a month or more left.
So they de-reg it to get the un-used rego' money back ($40 or similar small amount)
Which makesthe small repair no longer worth doing (for anybody) because of need tore-vin
Just silly isn't it
kaymay88,
Sep 8, 6:21pm
wait, what! what the fu . . . .
got a link or more info on this!
supernova2,
Sep 8, 6:47pm
As is where is, parts only, or whatever.What difference if its on live plates!AFAIK the fact a vehicle has a live plate means absolutely nothing as to it fitness to be on the road.The only reason I can see to manual dereg is to get a refund of the reg fee before selling.I was offered a pranged Toyota once by a friend.Had a look and yep could be repaired.Went back next day to pick up and plates gone.WTF!Owner had been told (by some muppet) as car was damaged must dereg so did.Left car where it was.6 months later friend rings and asks if i could help get the wreck to the dump.I'm sure the average joe/joess has no idea how the sytem (doesn't) work.
pnh4,
Sep 8, 7:03pm
Just buy it bro! you'll soon find out why they didn't give a toss about it.
supernova2,
Sep 8, 7:17pm
Those that dont give a toss are unlikely to manually dereg either.Those are the ones that fall off due to no payment.
aredwood,
Sep 8, 10:44pm
The silly thing is, those who dereg cars open themselves to possible future liability. If I buy a dereg car, then dump it in a river or jam it sideways in the local McDonalds drive through. Or cause any other damage / nuisance with it. The vin number will get traced and whoever is the last name on the ownership papers - the person who dereg it. Will get the bill.Far safer to keep the plates live and do a change of ownership. even if it is an empty shell.
moby,
Sep 9, 6:23am
Turners Auctions dereg bikes with the most superficial damage (fairings, scraped pipes, levers etc). Puts me right off.
mrfxit,
Sep 9, 6:33am
Turners only dereg at the insurances request or th owners request Some insurance companys are pretty pedantic about dereging ANYTHING
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