Hey thejazzpianoma

ianalice1, Oct 6, 4:35pm
Been reading threads, on cambelts.
Sounds like you know your stuff.
You wana job and do our '99 Oddy cambelt!
Get scared when they talk about $1000 jobs!
Ian

gammelvind, Oct 6, 4:39pm
Haha the boards most anti japanese man being asked to fix a japa, how cool.

therafter1, Oct 6, 4:43pm
Lol . I don't think Jazz would grubby his mitts on a japper.

You buy a car that runs a belt that's due for replacement then you wear the cost, its that simple.

If you have it done properly you have a probable 10 years of reliable trouble free motoring up your sleeve. If you divide the cost over the period it is relatively small.

Its weird, people don't want to inject a lump sum into their vehicle, but they are quite happy to inject gas into the tank on a weekly basis !

ianalice1, Oct 6, 4:49pm
Nah. cambelt was done, when we bought it over 6 years ago.

Had a good run.

therafter1, Oct 6, 4:59pm
Have you resolved the temp varying issue with the vehicle, and if so what was the problem and solution !

dent, Oct 6, 5:05pm
unfortunly thats about that it cost to do one of those correctly including seals tensioners and water pump.

thejazzpianoma, Oct 6, 5:12pm
Thanks for the offer Ianalice1, it was good thinking.
Unfortunately though I don't tend to take on jobs like that for other people.

The reason being I have to chip away at things quite slowly and its not unusual for me to have a crash (few tired days in a row) in the middle of things. Your timing belt should be only a few hours for a regular mechanic but I would chunk it down into little bits over a few days, doing an hour at a time.

I do help out some in the trade now and then but I stick to quicker jobs or get them to strip and reassemble so I just have to do the crazy foreign bits that they might not have done before.

Also. I am a big believer in doing everything properly and even with cheap labour by the time you do seals, tensioners, waterpump, belts, coolant etc the bill would still be up there.

Thanks for the offer though, I appreciate that you thought of me.

BTW, if in doubt, I would take it to "The Garage" at least whatever the price comes to you know you got a proper job at a really fair price.

vr4_legnum, Oct 6, 5:52pm
Ian, i know someone who work from home(legal business) would do the job and be alot cheaper then a workshop. If you want leave me your number on my auction and i will pass it along and get him to ring you.

thejazzpianoma, Oct 6, 5:56pm
LOL, actually I don't mind. its good to now and then to remind myself that cars are cars and the Japanese ones are not necessarily nicer/easier to work on.

There is a little less satisfaction involved though, part of the fun for meis admiring the quality engineering and being honored with playing a small part to keep a quality vehicle with admirable lineage on the road.

Sort of like being the curator charged with looking after a fine piece of art.

ianalice1, Oct 6, 6:08pm
Hi Alex.
Yes I have spoken to, was it John!
We talked it over and thinking thats what we'll do.
Keep well,
ian

ianalice1, Oct 6, 6:12pm
Um, not sure.
Ours stays around the 1/4 mark.

mugenb20b, Oct 7, 6:17am
Cambelt job on a F22B motor is only around 3 hours. It can cost around $1000 mark if you replace everything under the timing covers.

How long do you plan on keeping the car for! Plus, don't forget, Ody's transmissions are fragile, and how long is that going to last!

My Odyssey is coming up for its second cambelt change (done 197k), and I'm only going to replace what needs replacing. If idler and tensioner bearings look good and if the water pump is showing no signs of leaks or wear, they can stay there.

mugenb20b, Oct 7, 6:19am
As long as the gauge is not fluctuating up and down it should be OK.

mugenb20b, Oct 7, 6:23am
In that case, I think you should definitely take on a Honda cambelt job and admire its quality engineering.no plastic idler bearings in there for a start.

thejazzpianoma, Oct 7, 6:43am
Brent or Caleb are the two down there, Brent is the owner, both are very good mechanics.

thejazzpianoma, Oct 7, 6:48am
I would suggest you get Brent to observe and offer an opinion on this. In general cars should sit consistently on the half way mark. (usually gauges are calibrated for half way to be the normal point)

Running constantly cooler may be a sign of a thermostat that is not closing off properly. It may be causing your car not to heat up as quick as it should which is not great for economy or the engine. (Basically causes it to run a rich mixture longer than it should, like leaving the choke out longer than needed in an old car.)

Have a great Sunday, in the Sun!
I am about to head out there shortly.

thejazzpianoma, Oct 7, 6:51am
Ahh but plastic idler bearings can be a sign of quality engineering (quality design mostly). its not necessarily a cost saving measure.
They do it for some of the same reasons they use plastic impellers in water pumps.

dent, Oct 7, 10:48am
yeah and look where the plastic impellers on water pumps have got some manufactures.

thejazzpianoma, Oct 7, 3:38pm
LOL, actually that's mostly just a nonsense wives tale now.

Most (if not all) European manufacturers stopped Durethan impellers about 12 years ago. The plastic ones made since then are constructed from PPS which is every bit as reliable as a metal impeller IMO. Plus, it works better than a metal one.

If you are still expecting reliability from a waterpump old enough to be made from Durethan I suggest you go and buy a bicycle.

dent, Oct 7, 4:02pm
But then its not really an improvment from the steel impellers befor that then.