Or is it different BMW's have different shift patterns!Surely not!
meathead_timaru,
Oct 1, 1:26pm
That's because they're upside down in Europe!
bmwnz,
Oct 1, 2:06pm
My BMW's had the same as OP shift pattern and felt natural to me. I guess I equate the 'back movement' as something like changing from 3rd to 2nd in my old manual boxes, therefore changing down and the opposite ~ push forwards to change up from 4th to 5th gear in a manual car. So to answer the posed question: for me rearwards to change down just feels 'right'.
Today I use paddles for my 6 speed 'tiptronic' box, so there's no confuzzlebubbles at all. Left fingers = change down, right = change up gears.
bmwnz,
Oct 1, 2:07pm
BTW, the pattern can be changed to be the other way on BMW's. Check it out at Bimmersport.
nzdoug,
Oct 1, 2:45pm
forward for more forward, back for back off.
NZTools,
Oct 1, 2:54pm
try doing that while fighting against G forces. The higher the g force, the harder that becomes. (ok some cars arn't gonna have that issue due to lack of power and braking.)
vtecintegra,
Oct 1, 2:56pm
My Nissan is forward = up, back = down and its always felt back to front to me.
Should really be configurable
budgel,
Oct 1, 4:05pm
I have a 1999 740i NZ new.
budgel,
Oct 1, 4:08pm
It wouldnt be a biggie to turn wires to the switch around I suppose, but the marking on the console would be wrong.
I was just interested in how others viewed the layout.
gammelvind,
Oct 1, 4:08pm
Saw a euro honda civic (japanese) LHS much confused!
vtecintegra,
Oct 1, 4:15pm
I think they're actually manufactured in the UK.
zirconium,
Oct 1, 4:29pm
Tiptronic doesn't make sense to me either! It would make more sense to me if you got more revs/power/grunt when you push the lever towards the plus rather than the minus. (Plus being positive in my mind). It wouldn't matter whether it was a backwards or forwards lever push then, i could cope with it. :) Now i just leave it in auto.
richardmayes,
Oct 1, 6:04pm
I think your BMW has it the RIGHT way around.
The best two tiptronic cars I've driven have been a 2004 Honda Accord 2.4 euro (pull towards you to change down) and a 2005 Falcon XR6 (push away from you to change down.)
Even with a beautiful straight six engine, pushing away to change down just felt wrong.
Also intellectually I know a tiptronic is just an ordinary epicyclic automatic gearbox whose PRND321 selector gate has had the '321' replaced by a +/- thing. makes more sense to keep coming back towards you to select lower and lower gears.IMO.
smac,
Oct 2, 5:11am
If it's just +/- replacing 123, where does my car get the extra 2 gears from :P
3tomany,
Oct 2, 5:56am
thats the main reason for going with push pull bacause six or even eight on some would now take a lot of space if the ol;d 123DNR was put as 12345678DNR
3tomany,
Oct 2, 5:58am
forgot my opinion pull exalerating push braking just makes sence
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