When the law was changed to indicating when exiting a roundabout
EVEN WHEN GOING STRAIGHT THROUGH
which is stupid on small roundabouts!
it should have been specifically for large multi-exit roundabouts where plenty of time is available for the indicator to be seen
and some value in actually indicating was added
i.e.
not waiting for a car that is turning off on a six or 8 exit roundabout
with small roundabouts.
the time between indicating left just after the point of not giving the impression you are turning left (and having the car pull out infront of you - cos he thinks you are going left) and indicating out (when you are going straight through) is about one flash and is totally ridiculous.
so much for 3 seconds in advance
or is that nano seconds
now people are so confused .
I have seen everything
including one guy indicating left going 275 degrees around a right turn.duh
people approaching the roundabout with the left indicator on (as if turning left)
don't pullout on that one
your at fault even though they are wrong!
.only to go straight through
and no indicators from some at all
it's a right balls up
it's farcical
the change should have only applied to large multi-exit roundabouts
with more than 4 exits.obviously
one flash of a light bulb
between 9 and 11 o'clock is patently redundant
and now we have to contend with every combination of interpretations of the stupid rule that shouldn't apply to small four exit roundabouts
dumb
unbeatabull,
Feb 9, 6:24pm
Majority of drivers don't indicate correctly in the first place. I've never found a roundabout small enough for the current laws to work correctly.
smac,
Feb 9, 6:25pm
Riiight. SO have two rules, dependent on the size of the round about. You can tell their exact diameter when approaching can you!
And you think there's confusion now!!
Here's a radical idea: how about we make an effort to ensure road users know the road rules.
chrisdean007,
Feb 9, 6:26pm
we have lots here
chrisdean007,
Feb 9, 6:27pm
don't be a wally
it's the number of exits
not the size of the roundabout
chrisdean007,
Feb 9, 6:28pm
Christchurch has massive roundabouts were the rule is valuable
here in Invercargill
it is stupid
and causes lot's of near misses
chrisdean007,
Feb 9, 6:29pm
the confusion level definitely went up after the rule change
the rule is purely to aid the flow of traffic as people will know not to wait at a large multi-exit roundabout
important.read on
.THE only situation were enough time and angle is available to actually see the exiting signal
the rule really only applies to Auckland and Christchurch
here they are barely a kink in the road
it isn't that hard to see when it is useful and when it is just plain stupid
luxy,
Feb 9, 6:30pm
It was just some idiot trying to justify his existance. fancy having to indicate when going strait ahead!
morticia,
Feb 9, 6:30pm
People have enough trouble remembering what their indicator is for and yet you would give them the discretion to assess whether it was required based on the size of a round about!
The law goes back over 25 years, so I don't quite know why you say "When the law was changed to indicating when exiting a roundabout". Most drivers you would encounter in a day never drove under any other law.
chrisdean007,
Feb 9, 6:35pm
it's silly because our roundabouts are so small the indicator flashes once going past halfway and the guy beyond your straight through exit is on such an angle that he can't even see it
are you indicating to god!
r15,
Feb 9, 6:37pm
what rule change!
chrisdean007,
Feb 9, 6:38pm
like i said the worst instance was and approaching car indicating several times approaching the roundabout
and didn't turn at all!
they went straight through!
I might have pulled out based on that information
if i wasn't a jedi
and already aware that you just can't assume anything now at roundabouts
smac,
Feb 9, 6:41pm
Y'what now!
You're saying on small round abouts there's no time to see the indicator, so the rule should be don't indicate. Is that right!
And because of this, you're going to also say that people shouldn't indicate when leaving 30m diameter 4 exit round abouts! That right!
And I'm the wally!
This is awesome! I'm getting popcorn.
gunhand,
Feb 9, 6:44pm
I know what you are saying. We have 3 here in Gore and its the same thing. By the time you need to indicate you are going straight (past any exit) through and not turning you are past the only turns then there is no where to indicate or turn into anyway before you are through it. And if you indicate before the turn for a straight through others may think you are actually turning. Big multi lane multi exit yes, small ones no.
chrisdean007,
Feb 9, 6:50pm
yes and get me some too
what i am saying is obvious
the rule was meant for large multi-exit roundabouts
that was the whole idea
to save folks waiting for cars that were turning off earlier .as in large multi-exit roundabouts
one flash of the indicatorat the small ones is ludicris remember these are only four exit types
why indicate straight through
nobody can see it anyway
again.it's about the confusion all this has caused
and the breakdown of a system that used to work much better
and more logically
except they blanketed a system designed for large multi-exit roundabout onto ALL roundabouts
my point is this
and listen very carefully now
a lot of motorists are now so confused that they do all sorts of random things with their indicators
and the system that used to work well
is basically now this
.don't move until you see the whites of their eyes
(except some folks at large multi-exit roundabouts in Auckland and CHCH might have gotten to go earlier - which does make sense - but doesn't on a small roundabout
chrisdean007,
Feb 9, 6:51pm
yeah im with you on that
Im glad somebody else has seen the same thing
chrisdean007,
Feb 9, 6:52pm
yes because it is redundant when going straight
and people are confused to the point the system is nothing like it used to be
smac,
Feb 9, 6:53pm
So, speak slowly, and I'm listening carefully, and I'll speak up: WHAT RULES DO YOU THINK SHOULD APPLY TO SMALL ROUNDS ABOUTS, AND TO LARGE ONES!
Remember, there's plenty of large, 4 exit round abouts. You've said above that it's the number of exits that counts, not the size. There's also plenty of 5 exit small ones.
Here's an idea , indicate only :-a) when entering a flow of traffic. b) when pulling off the road to park , or into a driveway. c) when turning into a road which is off , or not at the same angle as your current one. d) no other bl**dy time , this includes roundabouts ! P.S. The very first newspaper ads for all this "indication at roundabouts nonsense" actually included the error of telling you to indicate right , even when intending to go straight ahead ! Do the people that ever did , or still damn well do , not think it is a bit wrong and question it with anyone ! It is maddening to other drivers and makes no sense whatsoever.
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