A friends car leaked a significant amount of water when she stopped for a feed on the way home. The vehicle was losing water somewhere and a garage in that town was phoned. The vehicle was left in their care to be repaired and I travelled the hour and a half to collect my friend. Wait a week, hear nothiing from the garage on the state of vehicle. Phone them get told it isn't worth fixiing as it has a blown head gasket. Orgainse a car transporter to deliver the vehicle to our local garage. Repair done to one heater hose and the vehicle is operational again, except for the damaged sidelight, that the car transporter had noted when he collected the vehicle from up the line. The garage who had the vehicle is denying all knowledge and responsiblity. To make matters even better, the smashed light that is in the car, doesn't even fit and the part number on the back of the light does not match that year of manufacture.
thejazzpianoma,
Feb 13, 2:59pm
Are you saying the broken light has been removed from the vehicle! Possibly pilfered by the garage who left you with the smashed light hoping you might think it was just broken not stolen!
Sounds like time for name and shame.
nz2293,
Feb 13, 4:49pm
hell yes id be pissssssssssssssssssssssssssss- sssssssssssssssed
mike355,
Feb 13, 5:07pm
Yep I am saying a perfectly good light was removed from the vehicle and replaced with a broken one that was not the correct one for that year car, as it did not fit correctly and it was not possible to fit it correctly. The original light was removed and a broken light was left partially installed in the car. If the light had merely been smashed that's one thing, but it is blatantly obvious that the light unit is not the correct one for the vehicle and then there isthe fact that the"mechanic" supposedly checked the car and diagnosed a blown head gasket, when in fact the issue was merely a faulty heater hose. Cost me the labour for that incorrect diagnosis, transportation of the car back here and the indicator light which amounted to around $370 and of course the repair cost for the mechanic at this end to replace the heater hose, and refill the radiator etc. But hey I guess that is better than taking that useless mechanics advice which was "the car is not worth fixing"
aragorn2003,
Feb 13, 5:10pm
I'm surprised he didn't say 'its not worth fixing . Ill take it off your hands for .'
mike355,
Feb 13, 5:12pm
Believe me I am, but what can you do, other than report it to mtva (a letter has been sent)which will be a waste of time. Or take him to the disputes tribunal and the owner just can't be bothered with the hassel of doing that
mike355,
Feb 13, 5:16pm
Nah no way that was going to happen. I know exactly where he made the mistake and thought the motor was shagged. Some time before this the auto cooler and the radiator got a leak and the two fluids mixed and eventhough the radiiator was replaced and the auto flushed their is still some minor sludge in the water which you can seein the cooling reservoir. The mechanic has looked at that and assumed the head gasket was blown, eventhough I had told him the reason for the contamination.
johnf_456,
Feb 13, 5:21pm
Post 2, you can't name and shame people here.
marcos1,
Feb 13, 5:29pm
Tut tut.wags finger. Policing is not required nor tolerated.
johnf_456,
Feb 13, 5:33pm
Tough
marcos1,
Feb 13, 5:43pm
I am constantly amazed how some posters ignore the blatantly obvious consensus of a message board. Or in this particular case "bored"
sandypheet,
Feb 13, 5:47pm
Wrong,how many posts every week bagging organisations like aa & vtnz.
thejazzpianoma,
Feb 13, 5:49pm
Why not! Where is it written! So long as what is said is factual and correct I don't see the problem.
marcos1,
Feb 13, 5:59pm
Thank the lord you weren't a member here a few years back. You would have had a stroke at the amount of shite fights and slagging.
meteor05,
Feb 13, 6:15pm
Plus 1
thejazzpianoma,
Feb 13, 6:16pm
+1, Your constant rushing in to every euro thread to pre-empt my arrival is childish and tiring. Sort it out or get on ya bike. I appreciate you are probably bored and lonely but it's no excuse to try and ruin everyone else's experience on here.
skull,
Feb 13, 6:22pm
I think I must be coming down with a European illness.I agree with Jazz.go away johnny 5
chook90,
Feb 13, 6:24pm
This one is interesting.
It seems like the OP accepts that the vehicle was 1. Overheating 2. Had prior oil/water cross contamination resulting in sludge in the radiator
It seems understandable that a mechanic might fairly assume a blown head gasket to be at fault. Perhaps more comprehensive testing might have eliminated it but more comprehensive testing costs time and money and has to be balanced against the risk that the customer will do exactly what has been done in this case - transport the vehicle home.
Given that the owner and OP knew about the oil/water cross contamination I wonder if it would have made more sense to make the garage aware of it which might well have resulted in them digging a little deeper to get past the obvious.
Sure, the side light issue is dodgy but I'd think twice before bagging a garage for an incorrect diagnosis in this case, particularly when information pertinent to that diagnosis has been withheld and based on the "not worth repairing" comments we are presumably talking about a vehicle of low value.
thejazzpianoma,
Feb 13, 6:28pm
In response to chook90 .
chook90,
Feb 13, 6:31pm
Hey Jazz. 99% of the time I agree with you, 99% of the time I see little if any value in johns postings to these boards.
In this case however I have to agree with him, I don't support name and shame. There are two sides to every story and public witch hunts and "outing" serve little purpose other than to encourage character assassinations based on one side of a set of facts. What is worse is that most often the accused party remains unaware of the discussion and is deprived the right of reply by virtue of that.
What ever happened to people resolving simple grievances like adults, meeting, explaining their differences, agreeing to whatever and moving on!
If it were a case of someone intentionally ripping off, scamming or similar I would perhaps think differently but in this case I do think the "second side" of the story might hold more merit than what we have heard so far.
chook90,
Feb 13, 6:36pm
Jazz, I hear you and had actually missed that part. However as I said prior, this is ONE side of the story and even if the mechanic was told the reality is that the symptoms displayed would most likely have given all the signs of a blown head gasket and when combined with said sludge the diagnosis is easy to understand.
We have not heard what instruction was given in terms of where to stop on this thing and if the owner had indicated he/she could not afford a whole lot I can understand why more comprehensive testing might not have been undertaken.
Let's be honest here. How many times have we all seen a vehicle that has boiled its ring out, lost all its water, continues to spew water out the radiator neck and taken a punt on a blown head gasket!
johnf_456,
Feb 13, 6:44pm
-1
This is a public message board for trademe members so no I will simply not state my opinion because a few dislike it, mainly the ones who mis behave constant. Calling people names is also no no, I would recommend that people don't. I have got unexpected gifts here for helping. Anyone can help but there is guidelines that should be respected of such. I am not a troll, I simply state fact which many here do not want to know about.
So on behalf of people who don't want slinging matches like general please move on, everyone has a right to post regardless if we agree with there opinion or not.
snoopy221,
Feb 13, 6:46pm
Talk about useless
Yeah that seems ta be happening in this thread.
Perhaps talkabout
A T F
Which could be. A Total Fool
Or
A Total Failure.
Or
Automatic Transmission Fluid.
[Which incidentally seen MANY MANY MANY Blown heads/gaskets- Never seen one A T F da radiator no- loss reservoir]
johnf_456,
Feb 13, 6:47pm
I am far from bored and lonely, but like everything here its about giving and receiving. But many of the children here like to dish it and not have it come back to them (not you as a FYI). I do respect your vast knowledge of european cars with such a broad knowledge of parts, where to do go etc. Even though you may not realize that I do, there has being many multiplia threads started over the years by various members.
I try my best to help but like i said earlier there is guidelines to follow.
snoopy221,
Feb 13, 6:49pm
This IS the
MOTORING section of it.
[In CASE ya didn't know]
This is a public message board for trademe members so no I will simply not state my opinion because a few dislike it, mainly the ones who mis behave constant. Calling people names is also no no, I would recommend that you don't. I have got unexpected gifts here for helping. Anyone can help but there is guidelines that should be respected of such. I am not a troll, I simply state fact which many here do not want to know about.
So on behalf of people who don't want slinging matches like general please move on, everyone has a right to post regardless if we agree with there opinion or not.
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