Her indoors has changed search criteria (As she would)
SO,
Min' 1800cc, tiptronic. NO CVT!
We've kinda narrowing the field down.
Mazda 3 (axela) Mitsi' Lancer (07 up faclift) Toyota Auris Toyota Blade
Mazda 3 pros: Because she likes the interior and they still look kinda up to date Chain drive. Decent boot space
Mazda 3 cons: In our 10k budget finding a good low k 2L one will be hard.
Lancer pros: Looks ok (sedan NOT hatch) Fortis has centre arm rest. Chain drive (I think) Decent boot space
Lancer cons Don't know much about Mitsi's Lower spec' ones don't have arm rests.
Auris pros: Toyota reliability (which i don't know if it stacks up a lot anymore) Nicer interior than Corolla
Auris cons Not as much boot space.
Blade: Just seems to be bigger engine version of Auris?
Ok, so any input from ya'll.
brapbrap8,
Jun 17, 3:34pm
The Mitsi would be CVT though? They are not a bad unit though, transmission problems seem to be non-existant with them and nicer to drive than older style Nissan CVTs etc. They drive very well in tiptronic mode though, I was anti CVT until I tried one and found the performance was quite acceptable for me.
stevo2,
Jun 17, 3:56pm
Axela or Auris. Personally I would go for the Axela, and they are out there under $10k. Do a Trademe search
attitudedesignz,
Jun 17, 4:18pm
I don't know if they are cvt, will try and find out.
fordcrzy,
Jun 17, 4:20pm
never mind the CVT on the mitsi. just worry about the oil consumption from new.
attitudedesignz,
Jun 17, 4:20pm
There is a nice blue SP23 i've got on my watchlist (hahaha) but the year and k's (maybe) are the only stumbling blocks for us i think.
richardmayes,
Jun 17, 4:25pm
Auris cons:
Our 1800cc one (office pool car) warped front brake discs time and again.
Started drinking engine oil at under 100,000km.
Dead, wooly handling, it's capable of fast driving but not really an involving drive for people who like driving,
5th and 6th gears are just about the same (in the manual). 3000-ish rpm at 100km/h, would be nice to have a taller quieter top gear.
Small boot (5-door hatch)
Cramped rear seats with little leg room.
Pros: quite a high-quality interior compared to a lot of other modern cars.
tamarillo,
Jun 17, 5:48pm
Personally I'd go for Mazda 3 simply because its a better drive, zoom zoom don't you know. And Mazda seems to equal Toyota in reliability - certainly the Aussies think so as its biggest seller in class consistently. Mitsi is old dated design and rubbish (and I agree is cvt). Wouldn't look at Golf? nice 08, 09 with modern 1400cc efficient engine, can be a wagon if boot space wanted.
stevo2,
Jun 17, 6:28pm
No problem :) but they are still a very good car, as long as you go for a 2lt or 2.3lt. If Mrs Stevo didnt want to downsize, I would definitely buy another
cjohnw,
Jun 17, 6:32pm
The 2.3 litre Toyota Blade is CVT, only the 3.5 V6 is conventional gearbox.
inatiz,
Jun 20, 11:23am
I purchased a 2008 Toyota Corolla early this year and decided to by NZ new rather than the imported Auris. The Auris I looked at only had the 2 frontal airbags whereas the Corolla had about 11 in all. Something to be aware of now that these extra safety features are available to us.
kazbanz,
Jun 20, 1:53pm
You need her to get into a caryard and drive some cars IMO anyways.
doglover2003,
Jun 20, 2:59pm
Yeah do a bit of showrooming and then save thousands buying privately.
kazbanz,
Jun 20, 3:22pm
Would you like to put money where mouth is there? See if you can find examples of the cars the OP is looking for "thousands" cheaper privately than at dealers yards.
poppy62,
Jun 20, 7:34pm
How about showing her a Merc B200/B170 has everything.
doglover2003,
Jun 21, 8:28am
Common knowledge can get better deals privately, how would caryards survive with large overheads if they were selling cars at the same price as private sellers with no overheads ? Start me off with a caryard price ?
kazbanz,
Jun 21, 8:47am
+ Common knowledge--well it will be VERY easy for you to back up then. Troll through listings and give an example of a commonly available car that is "thousands cheaper" private sale than a dealer somewhere in the country. is selling.
brapbrap8,
Jun 21, 12:17pm
Jeebus, who in their right mind would be paying $24k for a 3 year old base model 'rolla hatch?
doglover2003,
Jun 21, 12:40pm
Or you could say who in their right mind would try and sell it for 24K ? Starts with D and odd dreaming private seller. Plenty on here round that year and price.
slacker8,
Jun 21, 3:58pm
I have a toyota blade master G (3.5ltr v6), well appointed interior, plenty of power (206 kw), I got one with radar cruise control which is fantastic! Not bad on gas, chch to palmy averaged 7.8ltrs/100km. Only downsides is boot could be abit bigger, but rear seats do fold down and people keep asking is it a corolla, agghhhh no its a blade master G with a 3.5 V6 in it! Oh really? Yes! Bet that's a zippy car. Its not zippy it's. oh forget it. *walks away.
kazbanz,
Jun 22, 12:41pm
"great" example er NOT.-when you see that dealers are selling 2012 corollas for LESS than the private sale price currently.
kazbanz,
Jun 22, 12:42pm
THAT dealer price is at least 6k out of kilter with everything else listed
doglover2003,
Jun 22, 12:48pm
As I said plenty other dealers on here at that price
Anyway you saying 18k so still 2 grand difference
Show me a single dealer selling a 2012 corolla with 11000 km's for less than 16k ?
kazbanz,
Jun 22, 12:52pm
RIGHT NOW -there aint a dealer selling a 2012 for 16k --BUT I bet there was and will be based on the average pricing of dealer listings for that car. There are only two 5 door hatch corollas for sale with that milage so that combination of year milage is rare.
hey look you wanna stick with your idea that you will get thousands off by buying privately--go for it. My experience re private sellers is a fair bit different that apparently yours is.
doglover2003,
May 14, 7:22pm
Me "putting up" different too - checkmate !
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