In 80's we had schemes to convert and lots did, including me, it wasn't perfect but a good system worked. Now ford make Falcons with dedicated lpg that run better than petrol, it is after all, higher octane, yet so few around? Why aren't police cars, fleet cars doing high miles etc using it? I've looked at a good second hand one but there is little choice as so few new. Unless I want a 400k plus taxi. It's clean green stuff,mavailable nz wide, and there's an excess of the stuff (or at least there was so tell me if that's changed) so is there a problem with modern systems?
saxman99,
Feb 24, 9:13am
You lose a fair bit of cargo space in a lot of cases and you are carrying around a propane bomb. In a decent crash it could blow a hole in the world.
few factors instalation cost , certification every 10 years of tank and the LPG wof are a few things to stop people even thinking of doing it. Also the cost of lpg in new zealand is horrendously overpriced just like food in the supermarket. These are a few basic reasons why there is little interest with a few more detailed reasons that i wont mention so we dont end up argumenting semantics on your thread.
tamarillo,
Feb 24, 9:42am
Thanks, so it comes down to not cheap enough I guess. Fleets buying new can buy with it factory fitted (Aussie six) and they often seem happy with extra servicing costs of diesel, so although it is roughly 2/3 price guess that's not enough it seems. I know it burns more so consumption is up but 2/3 is said to allow for that. So where's the profit going? If it is still locally produced why does it end up costing so much, it's not tax!
franc123,
Feb 24, 9:48am
An electricity company sets the price of it. 'Nuff said.
purple666,
Feb 24, 10:10am
I have run LPG in various cars and vans for years, used to be a real great option and cheap as chips. This is no longer the case, they have been stepping the price up to where it makes little difference over petrol. Not worth converting to LPG anymore. I don't know much about the modern direct injection LPG factory setups.
thejazzpianoma,
Feb 24, 12:54pm
I think there is a real market for the likes of the factory produced dual fuel Fiat Panda's and Punto's in this country. When you are paying very little premium on the new car price, have the factory backing and warranty and are only paying say $7.00 instead of $10 per 100km it is worth considering if you are doing enough km's IMO.
But as above it's rarely economical to fit a kit. I did the math very carefully for us some time ago. What really makes me shake my head is you get some people converting silly inefficient cars like Toyota Corolla's which then use even more fuel on LPG. It's crazy when you can have a nicer car that is even cheaper to run than the LPG Corolla, without the price premium or LPG WOF's. All just by choosing a more efficient vehicle in the first place.
tamarillo,
Feb 24, 1:02pm
Many years back travelling round Italy there were lots of CNG cars and they made small cars run fine, which we never did with CNG here. Recall hitching lift with small fiat, can't recall,maybe 127. That went fine on CNG with typical Italian enthusiasm. Guess they use diesels now.
Pity, like idea of lpg. Nz made, lots of it, clean.
tamarillo,
Feb 24, 1:03pm
that's interesting, how come? Thought it came from oil rigs?
elect70,
Jun 1, 3:55am
Contact they are only interested in selling it to households where nat gas isnt available & resturants & obliged to use a minimum amount PA
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