So, if its private land (supermarket car park) that means one could a huge burnout a few donuts and the Police could only stand by and watch and not do you for sustained loss of traction? Choice. well I wouldn't do that myself. or would I?
socram,
Dec 11, 7:12pm
Back into an angled car parking space in Birkenhead at the ferry and you get a ticket.
Backing out into a main road in the UK (different scenario I know) is against the law. That means that most back into a driveway - and still do.
I try to reverse into car parking spaces here - where possible, but there is nearly always a wally who insists on attaching him/herself to your rear bumper, making it somewhat difficult!
mrfxit,
Dec 11, 7:19pm
When privately owned land is open to the public for any reason & any duration, FOR that duration, it is deemed public land. If that land has been opened to the public for the purpose of driving & parking vehicles, it's deemed a public road
mrfxit,
Dec 11, 7:23pm
Police generally stay out of public carparks as a curtsy to the land owner but are fully entitled to exercise the full extent of whatever law needs attention whenever the need arises.
Public backlash opinion took car of that.
mrfxit,
Dec 11, 7:27pm
Thank you . This bit specifically . >>
"Common law definition of 'road'
The common law that we inherited from England used a very simple test to determine what is a road: essentially, there had to be a 'right of way' or 'right of passage' granted to the public by the land owner. It didn't matter whether the land was publicly or privately owned - it was the permission for public use that counted. "
The legal definition of a road is very broad. It includes not only streets and highways, but also any place the public has access to ??
skiff1,
Dec 12, 6:03am
private land does not preclude it being a road.
purplegoat,
Dec 12, 6:50am
Are there signs advising you may not back into the ferry carparks ? The only possible reason i can think of not allowing reversing in is that they may be concerned about people hitting pedestrians walking along an adjacent footpath maybe ?
richardmayes,
Dec 12, 7:34am
This sort of thing is the reason car parks often have very low speed limits like 10km/h posted.
But a third of the people think "that's ridiculous I'm not going to go that slow, whoever posted that there is an idiot!"
A third of the people think "this isn't a road so that isn't a legal limit, I'll do whatever I want."
And the other third of people don't even notice that there was a speed limit to begin with.
And then this sort of thing happens.
pauldw,
Dec 12, 7:36am
In a Disputes Tribunal hearing a case of reverser hitting someone who drove into the parks through the exit was decided 30% blame reverser "failure to ensure road clear etc" and 70% blame guy going wrong way. Going backwards doesn't always mean total responsibility.
Where do people think they are going to park if they don't let existing cars move out?
hakatere1,
Dec 12, 7:53am
A couple of years ago, I was driving out of CD Ashburton, when I had to stop in a queue to leave carpark because of a bottleneck. A young lady backed into me and destroyed my left rear guard. When we swapped info, it turned out she was not insured, but was very nice about it. I felt sorry for her. I got in touch with AMI and had to pay excess of $300 which was returned to me a couple of months later. AMI said she was in the wrong.
klrider,
Dec 12, 8:10am
Whichever one is the husband will be in the wrong for sure.
bashfulbro,
Dec 12, 9:22am
Only in a carpark, where the public have access. Not in a private carpark.
mrfxit,
Dec 12, 9:27am
Same rules apply but insurance excess's could be in trouble. Not sure that a traffic ticket can be issued but the rules still apply
dutchie92,
Dec 12, 9:59am
the car reversing is to blame
gsimpson,
Dec 12, 12:26pm
I agree. If you are easing out carefully cars coming through should appreciate your view of what's coming is limited and act accordingly.
marte,
Dec 12, 6:01pm
I still don't understand the OP's question.
It seems the person reversing got hit by the OP's car, that had driven into the space the the reversing car was reversing into. Then the OP got hit by the reversing car. Is this correct?
OK someone has to 'stop in time' but if someone jumped into traffic into the 'stop in time' space, its not the cars fault.
mohaka,
Dec 12, 6:15pm
marte wrote: I still don't understand the OP's question.
Entered into car park from a side street,intending to drive through the park to other end where were spaces available.While cruising through car pulled out, backing out of angle park,had to swerve to avoid a broadside,but still managed to clip their LH back with my LH front.
tub4,
Jun 26, 9:35pm
Try parking in Palmy North in the mall or super market car parks without rego or wof and the local parking wardens will ticket you! Yep they do love their work.
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