I'd drive that, mind you I'm not into lookin at myself in shop windows in my "drivers" car, whatever the hell one of those is anyway. That will be a good reliable do everything comfy car, and no doubt everything works like new still.
gunhand,
May 16, 5:49pm
That would be a nice car as well for $5000 if you were that lucky.
gammelvind,
May 16, 5:52pm
Basically the same bus as the Avalon. These older originally expensive large Toyotas are going for prett good money.
ema1,
May 16, 6:07pm
Mechanically pretty much the same gear in the Avalon.
ema1,
May 16, 6:09pm
And they are reliable as too, it's my betting there will be lots of these about going just fine when lots of other "exotic" stuff has long since expired?
jordan.benn,
May 16, 9:38pm
Ended up buying a 2002 Subaru Legacy GTB E-Tune II. It has a complete service history right down to the moment it landed in New Zealand (came into the country with 900kms). It's possibly the most meticulously looked after used car I've ever seen.
Anyway, long story short, I'm a very happy man.
ema1,
May 16, 9:55pm
Cool . keep the maintenance up and you should have a good run, good to have a comprehensive history . good luck with it.
taurus61,
May 17, 5:00am
Maybe you should take your own advise. How many European cars have you owned that you so enjoy to rubbish ? I have owned British, German, American and Japanese cars over recent years and my experance that no one country of origin is any better that the other. If you are buying a 10-20 year old car what dictates how well it will last is how the previous owners have treated them, that is why with any 2nd hand car a full service history is so important.
tamarillo,
May 17, 7:06am
For goodness sake I even put IMO and still the need to bite and insult. IMO that's an ugly car, yet you then insult me. Wrongly as it turns out.
tamarillo,
May 17, 7:11am
You and ema1 are making assumptions on what op wants. Doesn't say one way or other about whether looks and style have any bearing. This is a forum where opinions are expressed, if they don't agree with yours you don't have right to knock them. I agree those things are hugely reliable and didn't say otherwise.
tamarillo,
May 17, 7:12am
Hear hear.
ema1,
May 17, 8:41am
Actually pal I have owned 6 Euro's to date along with about 24 non Euro's so who the heck do you think you are talking experience with me about various makes and not knowing virtually what I'm talking about, nor knowing what ever I have owned, pure guess that enters the conjecture category is what you are floundering with? I guess talking Euro's I suppose British might enter that group then the total would balloon out to over a dozen in all that I've owned? I still own 2 right now albeit 2 older ones which are virtually classic status now and were built when Europe makers had a hell of a lot more pride in their product. I have been driving cars since about 1965-6 and was in the motor trade for 16-17 years and reckon I'm qualified to make comments on the vagaries and good points of most makes . thankyou.! I know from all that experience which I prefer in this country and for other reasons and I'm not about to change my ideas on my choice simply because someone doesn't like what they hear/read any time soon. period and for good reasons. Talking full history of any vehicle being important, who the hell are you trying to educate here, I know those facts inside out pal and I have expressed such here many times.
ema1,
May 17, 8:52am
What a twat, honestly do you base opinions on what clap trap you spout and not listen to an owner of a particular make. Seems you only tend to go for anything that has had a deft stoke of an artisans pen/brush over any obvious reliability/practicality of a certain make? Funny how you literally "cubby holed" a couple of folks on here me included re the Toyota Avalon into your convenient "hate category"? Man that's what I call constructive . not errrrm actually destructive more like. Talk about insult . who was calling the pot black here, go take a look in a mirror t--rillo you'll find the answer there . You almost fit into the Dog & Lemon Guide of the TM Motoring Board fella. Honestly you do look daft at times? If an owner can't express an opinion on here for the OP to digest and in answering to another poster who brought up the type same as I own then I ask what the hell right do you have to put down such just because you think they look ugly, frankly there are a hell of a lot uglier totally fugly Euro's out there that get raves on here at times. I'm afraid T-rillo your judge and jury ways and ideas don't wash with me . period and lots of others frankly and if you don't like that fact then you can take a flying leap! Your colours are so obvious it's tantamount to being laughable and boring to the n th degree.
ema1,
May 17, 9:12am
It's weird that some totally fugly Euro's out there that get raves on here at times. god knows why, perhaps the folks that think and spout their merits to the exclusion of all else have been infected by the hate all except Euro infection I don't know but it certainly seems to be to an indoctrinated one eyed degree that I see all too often which makes their spouting often hardly credible IMO. Blind leading the blind I'd wager or even being totally hoodwinked maybe, I'd suggest possibly both. I appear to have congratulated the OP on his choice . have you . not that I can see?
ema1,
May 17, 9:28am
And what prey tell are you doing T-rillo, assumptions? when I own an Avalon that's funny as hell? I was just expanding on a suggestion supplied (with a link) . assumptions!. what a load of self opinionated B/S. G- vind and I have an equal right to make a suggestion same as you fella. A car at a damn good price was shown for sale on here which by sheer chance is the same as one I own, and you come out with a judge and jury naff comment which was pretty offensive to say the least. The subject of the Thread if you hadn't noticed was Post A Reply In "Opinion Thread-Best All Rounder For $5000 and that is exactly what I did backing up the post showing a link to a Toyota Avalon? plus Toyota Corolla & other Toyota's in that bracket . if you hadn't noticed? All I did was express what I have experienced with the make only to have it totally slagged off by Euro biased NAY SAYERS of little capability of listening to those that express those experiences and know the facts contrary to their total conjecture which all to often rares up in total half truths and total put downs of their obvious pet hating anti Euro agenda's. Typical narrow minded mindsets that don't impress frankly. Jazz offers a lot of good data on Euro's for sure but the dissing of non Euro's and the Options offered when they aren't called for that others do express their displeasure at is a bit grating at times then there's others that have a total exclusion narrow minded bent have issues I'd wager spout their half truths for the sheer hell of it. If they don't like whatever make it's their right but to go to the extent some have here then a sharp rebuke is in order and I have exercised my right to do so. nuff said. If you expected me to cringe and just bugger off under pressure of self the opinionated then you picked on the wrong person . period.
franc123,
May 17, 9:44am
Don't let them wind you up ema, some of the posts from these trolls soon tell you who has worked in the repair trade (and therefore witnessed the financial pain of crap purchasing decisions from customers) and who hasn't, in some cases its glaringly obvious. Its easier to just read and have a giggle (or a cringe if that suits lol) when they're recommending Citroen Xantias and Renault Clios and Alfa 156's and the like to the non mechanically/electrically literate public and dissing the boring and sensible options and just let them run with the ball.
ema1,
May 17, 10:07am
It's damn annoying I must admit when personal experience and that experienced by my years of being in the motor trade come in for a dissing like I have seen here, just shows how bloody narrow minded some folks actually are if they CAN'T TAKE A HISTORY OF PERSONAL EXPERIENCE and added into the mix years of motor trade experience to boot . it's all to funny really. I know franc123 that you have experienced similar yourself and I guess you like me have shaken your head all too often at the sheer propaganda and B/S that is all pervading too often on here. Lots of information is good sure but I draw the line at all the conjecture that is forced way before credibility at all costs on here, it's laughable honestly. The all to glaringly obvious is very apparent to me too franc.
franc123,
May 17, 10:32am
Oh yes, its hard to decide whether to be annoyed or amused by it, you do hope that it doesn't get taken seriously by those seeking it, and that further information would be sought from someone who can give unbiased advice based on (dirty) hands on experience with some of this junk that's allegedly so good in the eyes of some!
ema1,
May 17, 12:04pm
You seem to have a very short memory span when it was you in fact who bought up the subject of looks (ugly) etc then you say it doesn't have any bearing which it certainly doesn't? What . make up your mind. do you realize you just contradicted your self by saying that or are you denying you even entertained the subject of looks etc. with your smart arsed comment.! All too funny in my book, a real ping pong power of thought(lack of) going on right there in that post, or are you trying to have it both ways to satisfy the status quo? Personal experience does not equate to "assumptions" in my book and I was not forcing the issue but had my say in a couple of posts which is my right by the way and if you can't accept that then you have a problem. I believe in truth and wasn't assuming anything, it was up to the OP to take what he liked out of it and not for you to judge who says what. My recent posts may seem defensive, dead right they were meant to be. full stop.
tamarillo,
May 17, 12:12pm
Ermm it's you who objected to my opinion. I didn't say a thing about yours. You're confused and irrationally angry. Let it go please.
tamarillo,
May 17, 12:16pm
Comprehension by pass here. I bought up it was IMO ugly yes. But you and other poster then state the op isn't interested in its looks. Yet when I look at op posts I don't see any real details on what is important or not. It seems you're insulted by my opinion about the looks of a car you like. Jeez the world of art would be dead if this sort of attitude held wash. What on earth does it matter to you if I think it's ugly? It's an opinion, they vary and are subjective. Relax .
ema1,
Jan 27, 10:07pm
Hey fella you bought up the looks subject (of the Avalon as a general all encompassing statement) that don't have a bearing on this thread so why did you go and contradict YOUR statement and bounce onto me EH . You can't answer that because you said it in black and white pal in post #19 ? No not confused but factual which you fail to admit to recognize more like and your retort here is pretty damn lame if you ask me, as you are beaten on that one frankly and you don't like it? You offered what was amounting to nought apart from the one post, then you set about dissing yes dissing someone else's experience( more than one )which is nothing but plain damn rude, plus I notice the "Nissan" got the "Torch" too funny that, if that isn't biased then I shake my head as I have all to often by just reading some of these threads where the bias factor is all to common. Post #16 as a prime example. Who cares if you don't agree as you state , I say who the hell gives a toss what you think, other folks including me actually know better. If you can't be constructive . butt out OK.
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