Speaking of crazys

Wow, did you forget your medication? Did it occur to you that the front vehicle might be a heavy vehicle for which the speed limit is 90k?

No one in these thread has intimated or suggested that.

and the 6 behind that?

This is not 1 offence, it is several. I made no comment earlier about the speeding.

The fact is she committed SEVERAL offences. The only road accident I have ever had in NZ was in a collision with a driver whose car had been unregistered for FOUR years and he had also lost his licence for DIC, so he claimed his passenger was driving. (In the confusion in the accident, I couldn't say 100% that he was driving, though I suspect he was, so I wasn't prepared to go to court to support the police.) My car was written off and one of my rear seat passengers needed minor medical attention for a cut nose, even though the accident was only at about 40kph and she was wearing her seatbelt.

Do you think the owner would be paying back ACC fees because he was a 'bit late paying'? The 'alleged' driver had no licence at all, and they worked out that if she took the rap, her penalty would have been lower than his.

So forgive me if I think that in this current instance, the woman didn't make one single error of judgement - for which most of us might well overlook - she was guilty of several offences, and deserves no sympathy whatever.

We may not agree with some of the laws of the land, but it is far preferable to anarchy.

so what are they suggesting when they start in about how speed kills, twice the speed 4 times the effect - I don't drive with the intent to run off the road, and doing 101 or 150 does not mean I will inevitably crash, but if I stay at 100 or lower I won't

there was only one road offense, 150 km/hr, the rest belong to IRD

Waiting for a passing lane, then waiting for the moron doing 150k to go past.

"No one in these thread has intimated or suggested that." apart from you now.

,. There is a lot of dummying down in NZ ,going on at the moment , low pay /low productivity/ low expectations/low ladies tops / high fuel prices Draculan traffic restrictions . but wait ! (my Last lone Brain cell,) just went PING ,ive heard it all before !

. ,,,,being an old fellow, i goes back aways, to the Muldoon era , any body remember 'car less days' the Fuel crisis' "we have canceled the fuel tankers " NZ in Debt /petrol emergency" ALL THAT BALONEY ?

. Turned out that was load of lies as well. ,although i was quite proud of my car less day X exemption sticker ! before the PC police, pop up, i was a night shift worker and on call outs and ,call backs, at the time.

. An amendment to the fuel crisis was Gazettered 1989 ? 1980 ish ? to reduce the open road speed down from 100 klm to 80klm per hour,

,. im thinking even back then ,most people just ignored the open road speed and the introduced 80 klm speed restriction. you will find any unreasonable,. unjust restriction . imposed on the people will be treated to the derision it deserves. I cannot remember how long it was in place for, but well over a year ?

. I came back from Aussie and was working in Ch Ch, when Mulddon was throwing his weight around, traveling the Kaikoura to ChCh to Timaru road quite regularly. my speed the old/new? 100 klm .

. My Honda 750 was an ex police bike bought at Auction with all the P gear still on it, White with crash bars front back, full mud guards and a little dinky map case on the back.

. I soon realized when i came up behind people on my bike they initially thought i was A Motor Cycle Cop and their speed would drop down/back to 80 klm per hour.
. have you any idea how long it takes to get from Kaikoura Ch-Ch to Timaru at 80 klm per hour ?

,,,some body please work out the difference , for me ?. in time 100 klm /vers 80 klm/ vers the 90 k that peoples seem to be doing today, .

Ive lost all my log books from those days.

. I had a stroke a while ago and numbers are not my friends any more.

. Besides being one of the most boring road on the planet (except for those old twin tunnels near Kaikoura ) they were fun !

. Very rarely did you see a Cop on the road then. because. ? I wonder if any bright bod can guess why there was few if any Cops on the road back then ?

. Im off to one of my four part time jobs
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ah ah the high vis night rider is "On the Road Again"

. still hold the unofficial shortest time for that journey Kaikoura to Ch Ch to Timaru ,including fuel stops/pie /toilet/newspaper/breakfast/.

Bike back then was a Early series Honda four 750 .then changed to Z1 B 900 Kawasaki, 'King of the ROAD' in my Dreams, no one Quicker than Me on that bike ! AHHH the good old days !

. Still working on the shortest route /quickest time / Timaru CBD from the old Timaru Post Office to Fonterra Clandeboye's main workers car park.

Have found the shortest route is actual 5mins longer in time !.

90 kilometers per hour = 25 m / s
80 kilometers per hour =22.22m / s

= 2.788888 m/s x 60 =167.28m / min
which of course is 10kph the distance between the 2 cars is 10km
eg 2 of us left Wellington for Tauranga at the same time
he traveled at 90ish me 100ish when i arrived they were had just arrived in Rotorua 70km away so the extra travel time is about 1hr
so one will be 7hrs and the other 8hr

Yep sounds about right.
My average from Huntly to Hawera via New Plymouth had always been around 4.5 hours travel time at around at 95 - 105kph
Many years ago I also did that same trip sitting on 140kph-ish (not over) for over half the trip in just on 3 hours.
Roads have been improved since then so current times would be a bit shorter

Nothing attached to driving/motor vehicles belongs to the IRD and never has done.

pedant much, by IRD I was suggesting pure revenue gathering with no element of road safety involved
I cound be equally pedant at point out that everything in roading fines has an element of IRD in it , have you heard of GST yet

So if everyone refuses to pay into ACC (which attrtacts GST anyway) and we have a US style user pays system, good luck with that. Hope you never need any medical treatment and get turned down because you can't afford it.

Hope you never need any income support of any sort, legal aid, a pension, the police force, fire or ambulance services. Maybe you'd also prefer all criminals freed from jails - unless of course you want to house one or two murderers or rapists at your place? Or how about paying for border protection and the armed services - or better we call them our Defence forces. Where would their funding come from?

No one ever likes paying taxes rates, various fees and sure, with my background, I know darn well that I could slash costs and improve various services and productivity, (it is what I am qualified in) but the fact is, you can't always choose what you want to pay for and what you don't.

ACC fees are coming down July 1st but quite simply, if you can't afford to run a car and pay the various fees, get a pushbike or use public transport, even if it means a taxi or a hire car now and again. Overall, it is much cheaper.

Where do you think the various charges/taxes/GST go?

you're still assuming she did not pay her ACC, as soon as the vehicle is brought up to date any outstanding ACC is paid, is collecting any fines for late payment offset against those fees that will be paid eventually
I know you think you have a special case, but it is not this case, she was pinged for doing 150 passing on a passing lane, not a dangerous move, not an inconsiderate move, she put no-one at risk doing it ( apart from the sheep stuck behind slow moving traffic and too afraid of plod to give it some gas on the passing lane having several conniptions and if of your attitude collectively feared for their lives because someone passed them at obviously more than the legal limit - all danger of course would have dissipated had she done it at 100 and you'd have had nothing to rabbit on about)

So has she brought the rego/ACC up to date or not? You don't know and I don't know. Unless you are related or know the person, or were there, how do you know whether or not she did or did not put people at risk?

I'm not saying whether she did or didn't. How do you defend the expired licence?

Don't get me wrong, I hate the dawdlers as much as the next and in the right circumstances, 150kph is not excessive. Assuming she was overtaking a stream of cars at 150kph, it would only have needed the driver just behind an obstruction to glance in the mirror, assume the car overtaking from further back was only doing 105, but was in fact doing 150kph, then what?

Yes, I'm 'afraid of plod' if I give it too much gas, because I value my licence, not because I am afraid to overtake. Sadly, your brain says 'go' having assessed the situation, then the fact that you'll be doing well over 100kph by the time you can return to your own side of the road as soon as possible, means that you don't overtake. Too bad.
Hate the 100kph limit law, but Winston Peters has at least come out with a proposed sensible change to the law, but as he always promises stuff he can't deliver, don't hold your breath.

the sensationalisim in the story only works because the public are so conditioned to speed kills

she overtook a line of cars - its not hard to go over 140 doing that

socram, you'll probably find she has 14 days to rectify the out of date rego ( and it would not be far out of date, the lack of writing her up for no WOF says the WOF was current suggests the last rego has not been gone for long
theres always the whatifs later, they didn't happen, she passed the other vehicles safely, it the slow guys had half a ball left between them they would have already passed the slow leader long before she even pulled out
I still maintain the cop should have pulled the whole lot over and given them all tickets for inconsiderate driving