A hard bike to ride

gwimweeper, May 21, 11:06am

debulebule, May 21, 11:19am
Some guys at my high school made one and bought it out each fundraiser, pay $1 and try ride it 10 metres, win $100. No one ever did it in my 5 years there.

tamarillo, May 21, 12:06pm
That was great, thanks

sr2, May 21, 12:26pm
Amazing, thanks for posting.

nzoomed, May 21, 12:45pm
seen these before the handlebars are reversed! lol

bwg11, May 21, 12:47pm
Did this at university many years back. It doesn't need geared reversed steering to make a virtually URB (unridable bicycle). Tampering with front-end geometry will do.

This is an interesting read:

http://socrates.berkeley.edu/~fajans/Teaching/MoreBikeFiles/JonesBikeBW.pdf

zak410, May 21, 12:47pm
haha, as a kid I crushed unto a parked car trying to ride my bike with my arms crossed.

gsimpson, May 21, 1:31pm
It can be done. It is just most cyclists don't understand the engineering dynamics involved.

The rules of a bicycle are.
1. You balance the bike with the steering.
2. Steer the bicycle with your weight.

Explanation.
1. As you are riding along and you start falling to the left, you steer to the left. This puts the tyre/road contact point under your centre of gravity and you stop falling. Fall to the right, turn right.

2. To steer the bike you lean in the direction you want to turn and then use the steering to balance the bike at rate of turn you want.

To ride the URB you need to focus but just think "fall left turn right" "Fall right turn left". You steer as normal by leaning the way you want to turn.

sifty, May 21, 1:38pm
Yeah interesting.

trogedon, May 21, 1:49pm
Otherwise known as countersteering.

trogedon, May 21, 2:00pm
Brilliant ideas and video. I would've like to see him ride the URB just after the normal bike to show he could do both - if he could do both!

gsimpson, May 21, 2:55pm
My understanding of counter steering is to quickly initiate a fall to one direction to initiate a turn rather than balance the bike.

gsimpson, May 21, 2:57pm
Note that riding a tricycle is completely different. You balance the trike with your weight and turn the trike with the handbars. Adult tricycles (and motorcycles) are tricky for the uninitiated who think they will be a piece of cake.

towelynz, May 21, 3:15pm
There's a really easy trick to riding a bike like that. Cross your arms. Right hand on left grip and left hand on right grip.

Nothing complicated about it at all.

sr2, May 21, 3:29pm
No 2 is not quite correct. You initially steer in the opposite direction you wish to turn and then as the bike and rider falls over you then "countersteer" in the direction you wish to turn. (See # 10, Trog's on the nail).

nzoomed, May 21, 3:41pm
oddly enough the video showed people doing that and still unable to do so!

purple666, May 21, 3:46pm
The guys at The Gypsy Fair used to have one for people to try out, funny as to watch. I think there was a prize if you managed it.

woodypc, May 21, 3:48pm
People who say it is easy have no idea. If you wanted to countersteer this you could first have to countersteer the countersteer. Also science does NOT know yet how exactly we are able to ride a bike, there are formulas, but they only ever work in some situations, so it is still a mystery.

zak410, May 21, 4:06pm
that's why sidecars are such weird creatures to ride/drive.

trogedon, May 21, 4:21pm
This guy could probably do it in less than 8 months;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShbC5yVqOdI&safe=active. Well worth a watch!

kazbanz, May 21, 5:51pm
easy-2 bits of paper in the cog and bingo

widespec, May 22, 1:24am
yep and you would end up with no steering

gsimpson, Jan 20, 3:50am
My interpretation of the terminology is "countersteer" is to turn in the opposite direction to desired turn and "steer" to turn in the desired direction.