Certificate of Loading

saxman99, Mar 19, 7:51pm
Hello all. I see my recently acquired 2001 Mercedes Sprinter Motorhome weighing 2400kg is displaying a CoL.

Does it really need one? Ta.

martin11, Mar 20, 6:15am
What is its GMW or GCW

saxman99, Mar 20, 6:46am
I will check what the CoL says later today, but from Carjam:

Gross Vehicle Mass: 2,590kg
Tare Weight: 2,590kg
Maximum Rated Towed Mass:
800kg unbraked trailer
1,800kg braked trailer
Axle Type: 2-Axle
Axles: 2
Wheelbase: 3,550
Front Axle Group Rating: 1,460
Rear Axle Group Rating: 1,500

Doesn't make sense to me that the Tare and the Gross figures are the same?

johotech, Mar 20, 7:00am
Not sure that the Carjam information can be relied on. It certainly doesn't look correct.

Does it actually have a towbar?

If it was a rental, it wouldn't have had a towbar at that time. Possibly the certificate wasn't updated when the towbar was added.

martin11, Mar 20, 7:03am
Saxman something is wrong on car jam the GVM seems wrong .

saxman99, Mar 20, 7:57am
Thanks guys. Haven't been home yet, will upload a pic of the actual label later.

Yes it was originally a rental, has been privately owned for some time now. Has a WoF, not a CoF.

No there is no towbar, pretty sure has never had one.

I agree the Gross figure seems wrong.

saxman99, Mar 20, 1:36pm
OK here's the CoL and also the numbers from the VIN plate.

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/371069574.jpg https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/371069631.jpg

I'm not too worried whether the numbers are correct or not, what I need to know is is a requirement for me to display the label?

martin11, Mar 20, 1:48pm
The Tare weight is the empty weight of the van 02410 kg and the gvm is the laden weight 02590 kg therefore 180 kg diff ?
The GCW is the van and trailer combined . Something is wrong with the paper work .
It is your responsibility for it to be correct .

Is it a NZ conversion or fully built up import ?

Have you got a model number for the vehicle or a photo please ?

saxman99, Mar 20, 2:03pm
I wonder if the Tare Weight takes into account all the stuff that was permanently added to the van when outfitted, therefore only leaving a small amount between that and the GVM.

If that's the case then I'm pretty sure the van will be quite a bit over 2590 when in holiday mode. I have no way of finding this out of course, my truck scales seem to be missing.

If it is wrong then I just love how it's my problem for it to be right when someone else has cocked it up. Good old NZ rules again.

Pretty sure it's a NZ camper fitment. Might be CI Munro. Dunno.

Still just want to know if I have to display the label.

saxman99, Mar 20, 2:04pm
Yeah, nah I'm not quite that silly, officer.

saxman99, Mar 20, 2:37pm
OK, so as far as I can tell from nzta website virm portal, since it's not a Heavy Vehicle, No CoF, under 3500kg it doesn't need a CoL.

Off it comes. Thanks all.

martin11, Mar 20, 2:41pm
Take it to a weigh bridge and put it on it that will give you an idea of its weight , rubbish transfer stations do that for only a few bucks

I suspect the GVM is probably 3490kg which would make the other figures make sense .
Wonder why it had a COL on it in the first place ?

saxman99, Mar 20, 3:52pm
Perhaps because as a rental it was subject to a CoF and so somebody felt the CoL should go with it too. I notice the CoL was issued in 2001 when the van was brand new and therefore a rental.

Nowadays it's subject only to a WoF and I can find no reference to any WoF vehicle requiring a CoL.

snoopy221, Mar 20, 4:12pm
Egad ya have *crakedit*
So ya GCM is over 45 and yip add water and waste tanks etc.
By Gum every truck can run on unladen K'S not GCM.
[Think you will find that as a fully laden vehicle towing a trailer with a given Gross Combined Mass over 4500 kg's it needs a Certificate Of Loading-as it CAN be a laden weight OVER 4500]

saxman99, Mar 20, 4:14pm
Yeah but no towbar so can't happen. Also has a great big step bolted on in place of a towbar so as it stands a towbar can't actually be fitted, the step system would have to be removed first. Which isn't happening. I like my step.

martin11, Apr 22, 4:45am
COL applies to vehicles with a COF which this vehicle does not have it a WOF on it . Van is probably under 3500kg laden a does not require a COF . Towing additional weight would depend on the Draw Bar fitted which it does not have .