to be honest dude Im less than happy about it. But the reason is as outlined above. You just don't know under current law the nature or extent of the damage.
sw20,
Sep 29, 3:56am
He is always available for comment. The rest of the motoring industry are too busy trying to make a living on slim margins.
carclan,
Sep 29, 5:13am
Good point
subac2,
Sep 29, 6:27am
Hi there, I have seen a couple of Oz cars onTM, and the ones I have seen have before and after photos. I looked at a SS-V Redline that had rear bumper, boot and light damage. 18,000ks 2014. All replaced with photos, receipts, records and I could not fault it. Unfortunately another guy had it on hold subject to finance, and yes I missed out on a good cheap car. This seller has all major brands listed on TM if you look hard enough. I would buy one subject to viewing and records.
joanie32,
Sep 29, 7:15am
The guy we bought off explained that cars are written off due to very minor issues, and that meant there was an over supply of easy repairs. There's no need to be rebuilding major accident damaged cars as long as that is the case. We picked from 20+ imported damaged cars, not one had more than a days repair work required, I bet I could walk through your yard and find at least one kiwi car that's had more significant repairs without being "written off"
pettal,
Sep 29, 8:10am
Funny = I've heard sort of the reverse happening where repo and foreclosed lease tradies utes etc are been shipped to OZ so as to not dilute the new ute market here .
kazbanz,
Sep 29, 8:11am
I will take that bet. lets say $1000 NZ You can use any inspection service you choose --Panel beater of your choice,Compliance officer --You name it.
kazbanz,
Sep 29, 8:17am
please forgive the cynic in me. Unless presented PROOF that the reason a vehicle was written off is minor damage I don't believe it. "The guy said" honestly doesn't cut it with me. But keep in mind having been in the industry a fair while I have heard and seen first hand "the guy said" product. You MAY be right -but the insurance industry in Auzzie isn't too much different to here, Can you think of a logical reason an insurer would wright a car off for a couple of dings in a door?
carclan,
Sep 29, 3:12pm
I have been down the water damaged compliance road, a lot of hoops to jump through (some with fire around them) but was worth it in the end. Finding a repair certifier that had his head screwed on the right way will help and in my case not one shred of evidence was found to explain why my vehicle was written of due to water damage.
rpvr,
Sep 29, 7:13pm
So can seriously accident damaged cars in NZ still be repaired provided they pass compliance, regardless of the extent of the damage? About 15 years ago I worked in a State Insurance assessing centre for a couple of years, doing parts procurement etc. At that stage they were still doing "cut and shut" repairs (joining two halves together) and nose cuts (complete front to firewall) were common. State were probably the last company to undertake such extensive repairs and I was under the impression that they were about to be outlawed - but maybe not?
joanie32,
Sep 30, 6:19am
The insurance industry, and govt regulations in Aus are very different to here. A statutory write off has sustained damage that means it is unable to return to the road, these standards are very strict. A repairable write off has sustained damage that is determined as uneconomical to repair, but is relatively minor. There is an abundance of these available in Aus, and these are the vehicles that make their way to NZ. As I said before I'm sure most dealers in NZ have a car in stock that has been repaired here that would have been a repairable write off in aus.
Ps. It's WRITE off, not wright off.
joanie32,
Sep 30, 6:34am
Ok, I'm a beater by trade and live 45 minutes away. Bet I find one car that's had paint repairs to more than two panels, like our imported damaged mitsi did. Wanna make it worth my while though - make it 10k?
lookoutas,
Oct 1, 9:26am
Keep it above the belt guys - that's not helping the debate. The NZ system is designed to stop the dodgy dudes from stitching wrecks together with bird-shit. It was caused by those same persons, and virtually stuffed it up for the genuine ones. It works, but it's a pain in the arse for someone like me who has a 2 hour trailer trip to the nearest compliance centre. Makes it so awkward, that's it's not worth the hassle.
As a charge-out job, it will add close to a grand to the final cost.
carclan,
Oct 4, 4:50am
I agree, would rather buy one with a repair certificate if it comes to it as at least you know whats been done.
xs1100,
Oct 4, 8:20am
by having a opinion and probably not charging them for that opinion thereby giving himself some public recognition and thereby promoting his rubbish as fact. think the big HC backing the big JKs trade deal you don't get nothing for nothing theres always a pay off
franc123,
Oct 4, 8:36am
I don't know about that, Australia is a pretty tough place to get used vehicles in to, their rules are very much designed to prevent mass importation of under 15yo vehicles into the country. If they can't be proven to be ADR compliant its difficult or impossible, you really need to know exactly what your vehicle is and if it was intended to be sold there or not. There tends to be less variation than there used to be between Oz new/NZ new market cars re emission control gear and safety specs but extreme caution still needs to be applied.
westwyn,
Oct 4, 10:30am
+1
The Australian newish vehicle market is HIGHLY protected- and you simply cannot obtain import approval for a vehicle (like a tradie ute) under say 2006 if the same model (not even a variant) was sold new in Australia.
The late model marketplace here is healthy enough to warrant stock remaining here- no "dilution" required unless it's a volume rental, and then, the same issues are present in Australia.
There IS a bit of exotica crossing the ditch back to Australia, but it's highly selective and you really, really, really have to know exactly what you're doing- there are specialised dealers (on both sides) who understand this and what is required.
For a novice, it's currently a nightmare.
unklesams,
Mar 23, 4:04pm
I ship some of these vehicles, and as above none are any worse then insurance would put back on the road here, I have seen many that are "flood affected" that have had water up to the sill level (none in the car at all) and brand new vehicles written off as driven through road works prior to delivery and splashed with lime. a massive amount is a rort with the insurance companies and protecting the market. The used parts market is flooded with cheap parts too. I would happily drive a repaired import no different then a repaired local car other then the fact its been through a more stringent check before going back on the road.
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