Had an AA report done. These are the things noted.
*vibration inside car, check engine mounts *brake pads worn *tyres uneven wear suggest wheel alignment *Steering right hand boots, not correctly located *cv joint noise on both steering locks. *missing jack/toolkit *transmission pan gasket weeping (rang inspector about this, he said minor/keep an eye on) *battery insecure *Usual dents/dirty fabric
Original sticker price was $7500, TM asking price $5995. Dealer. 2005 mazda premacy 125,000 km
How much should I be haggling off for these items? (or should I be walking away)
faa_luke,
Feb 16, 3:11pm
How does it compare to other options price wise? Sounds like it's had a hard life. Personally i'd try and find a car without most of those issues, worth paying a bit more. If the price reflects all of those issues (cheaper than other similar vehices), then it might still be worth considering. A well serviced car will end up saving you money, over a car that hasn't been serviced well.
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scorpian92,
Feb 16, 3:13pm
spray on his 6 k. and walk away
callum.irvine,
Feb 16, 3:36pm
Trouble is endless pre purchase inspections end up costing a bit of money. I guess it's their job to try and find issues so you can use that as price leverage.
I am yet to see a report that says "Everything is perfect. A bargain at twice the price"
I also wonder why when you get the report done the AA ask if you are the buyer or the seller. A cynic would say that it may affect what they say on the report depending on which you are. Otherwise why would it matter if you are the buyer or seller?
intrade,
Feb 16, 3:40pm
sounds like a neglected pile of poo by reading this report. if the AA found all this imagin what is wrong and they have not found as there reports are usually close to useless.
tamarillo,
Feb 16, 3:41pm
Ask him to it or an agreed price, if he won't pay a little more towards it. $500 maybe. He's not asking top dollar so a few things are expected but cv joints alone is hundreds, won't quote as they vary but you could get a quote. If dealer wants to sell and you like haggle.
intrade,
Feb 16, 3:43pm
RE* 4 why dont you learn the basics of checks your self and then get a inspection by a mechanic whom knows that brand of car to do the checks for you on findint what ever else is also wrong with the one you like and think is in ok condition.
msigg,
Feb 16, 3:43pm
Yes it's all easy stuff to fix, you could be looking at new tyres and alignment ,$500, brakes worn? they are all worn on any car, so if you want new pads add another $300, CV $200 or get the dealer to fix all the items.
tgray,
Feb 16, 3:44pm
Vibration inside car is the only thing that would concern me. The rest are relatively minor considering it's a 10 year old car.
skull,
Feb 16, 3:49pm
I would think that 125k is a bit soon for CVs to be clicking but if the boots have been letting crap in and grease out then that could explain it I suppose.
gtf,
Feb 16, 3:54pm
Do the numbers - does the $1500 saving, associated work on your part (and risk) add up?
*vibration inside car, check engine mounts - I had a 2005 Mazda 3 sedan that required 2x engine mounts replaced (not at the same time), could just be a 'wear & tear' item or a Mazda issue? *brake pads worn - easy/relatively cheap replacement but are the brake rotors ok? *tyres uneven wear suggest wheel alignment - assuming front tyres so what size & type will dictate replacement cost? Plus the alignment. *Steering right hand boots, not correctly located - faulty installation or wear & tear? *cv joint noise on both steering locks - possibly require replacement? *missing jack/toolkit - easy to get from wreckers or purchase new from Repco etc *transmission pan gasket weeping (rang inspector about this, he said minor/keep an eye on) - get a transmission flush & service includes replacement of the gasket. *battery insecure - simply tighten battery holder screws or are they broken? *Usual dents/dirty fabric - minor 'wear & tear' or unsightly? Dirty fabric can be 'cleaned' with auto products depending on how bad.
How much should you be haggling off for these items? Search the web for pricing of items or call someone - add in your time, effort & risk factor - hopefully it works out for you!
intrade,
Feb 16, 3:55pm
i would be worried about the trans fluid leakage and how low it was operated on and then the fibration engine mounts are not cheap and mazda have horrendous parts prices plus almost all parts ex japan if you can even get , like a timing belt tensioner for a capella mazda 14 day later they ordered the wrong part and we are waiting again, on mazda.
franc123,
Feb 16, 4:35pm
Up to you whether you think 6k is a good price for it or not, or whether you could get a much better one for 7. You could sort all those problems for under a grand.
kazbanz,
Feb 16, 4:40pm
Which model premacy is it? Being 2005 is it the old belt drive one same size as the old Honda stream or is it the new shape chain drive 2.0l ?-easy answer--sliding or normal doors?
The relative value of them is totally different. But doing the add up 2xCV outer joints (assuming it is outers) $400 is as long as they pull out of the hub ok. 2x tyres and wheel alighnment- $250 brake pads $100 (fitted by mechanic) Battery strap $40 2 x engine mounts $250 fitted You are still not certain the vibe isn't in the tranz given its leaking oil VS another one of the several at similar pricing
tgray,
Feb 16, 4:54pm
Of course getting all these things done, you would then have a fault free car. You have to remind yourself however, that you are buying a USED car in USED condition at a USED price. How many 10 year old used cars that have already been around the clock, are fault free?
callum.irvine,
Feb 16, 5:27pm
Thanks all for your helpful input
Yes, 2005 is the sliding doors "new model" one. At $6k asking price it is currently the cheapest on TM, minus a Turners $1 reserve one.
Dealer has asked for copy of the AA report, so I sent that and I guess in his court for now if he is going to fix some issues or offer a lower price. Going from Kazbanz's add up I might try for $5k
socram,
Feb 17, 6:55am
Looks to me that it hasn't been serviced regularly - apart from the disc pads. Some of those items are inexcusable on any car, regardless of age.
What does an insecure battery, uneven tyre wear and a missing jack tell you?
bjmh,
Feb 17, 7:14am
you could ask him to fix all your concerns and you pay $5995 . I doubt that he would do that if he has already discounted it.Another way you can do a basic inspection is pay for a wof inspection,slip into your conversation that you are thinking of buying the vehicle.You can soon tell the general condition of it. paint/interior etc yourself.
kiwitrader43,
May 25, 6:02am
Considering it is possibly an import originally with usual wound back or swapped speedo, it should not have all of these issues. CV joints worn usually means over 200 kms. Oil leaks etc just walk away and don't get emotional or you will buy a lemon. 6000 plus is too much to pay for a car with issues. Keep ,looling no matter what the silver-tongued dealer promises you.
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