Hmmmm, it could happen.

Being 'merica it's quite possible this could happen.

http://www.autoblog.com/2015/04/20/automakers-gearheads-car-repairs/

the aftermarket is fighting for the right to repair since years They are professional businesses in the trade whom get shafted by car makers since ever i posted about this problem ages ago. so for diy and home mechanics it is even more worse when professionals dont even get the information like wiring diagramms and loads of other essential repair information without fighting for it.
What they talk about could happen in nezealand first everyone knows if it dont makes any sense then its done in new zealand like the proposal to have traffic cameras installed to flash at red lights and orange also for good mesure. only in nz that one even makes it on to paper and the 1k speed tollerance, So would not surprise me if they would make this law here.

If it comes into force, I can see a big resurgence in classic car popularity for those who like to tinker or modify!

Blimin heck . :-(

The EFF thinks the industry's desire to block exemptions has more to do with profits than safety. As software becomes easier to update, automakers could sell these performance upgrades on an a la carte basis. Because a favorable ruling would strengthen their control of the software, the car companies could potentially force consumers to only have their vehicles fixed at their dealerships or preferred repair shops.

research "block exemption" the right to repair =

what i wrote on here longer ago i know that even main car maker dealers ar friggen swapron morons with no clue what they actuarly doing on these new cars , So in a way they do have a point but its also there main dealers who are employed by the car makes who have not got a single clue, and its the car manufacturers doing with there flow chart.

Litigators are ruining America. This isn't about cars it's about car makers not wanting to get their butts sued even more than they are.
I don't see the makers as the problem it's the litigatious society.

the origin is yes its all about emissions i said it hunderd times now the tuffer the emission rules a car comply to the more problematic and complex it gets, and who makes these laws your correct the litigators and greenies do.

Can't wait for when the IT companies and the big motor manufacturers go head to head in court when these self driven cars start crashing into things because of software errors and corruption and flaky hardware, NOBODY has come up with technology that robust that it can be left entirely to its own devices and will still work 100% even when confronted with environmental extremes and outside interference from even more electronic and electric junk the world is cluttering up with.

I do though get their point re ESC and Braking and steering being electrically assisted.
You really wouldn't want to screw that stuff up.
But once a car is out of warranty then why can the engine/gearbox management be changed?

engine and gearbox managmant all interacts with everything else engine managmant turns down the volume on your stereo when the gearbox selects reverse gear on a 2010 audi A4 , just one real most simple example
there is a ton more interacton from all the electronic crap.

Its Democracy making way for Corporatocracy.

Can I ask you a question intrade? Given that using a process of elimination is reasonable and can be an effective way of fixing a car, what is your problem with mechanics. sorry, technicians, replacing parts to find an issue?

Is it the fact that they charge for the time and parts used, sometimes with questionable results? Is it the fact that the so called professionals seem to not know how to find faults in modern engines even though they claim to be experts?

This isn't a loaded question by the way, just wondering why the whole swap-a-tron thing? A mechanic who can just tell you whats wrong with a car is a rare thing to find. Most I know use process of elimination.

might be a bit difficult to exactly explain it correctly without making it sound wrong , keep this in mind please its quite complex to understand and its a similar reason why people think a wof is a service and all there car needs.
These are possible but real scenario how cars are now that i made up to try and explain from things i did learn in modern automotive training courses.
lets see where to start.
here is a possible example .
a old car! right? "aircon stoped working" turns out its the controller in the dash. A old car like a toyota OLD has just 1 on off mechanical button to turn the clutch on or off to make the aircon go. Button cost 40$ tops and 1h labour to find and swap the part , nothing else it could be there is nothing else in this scenario.
Now you have this same fault on a superduper fanzy 2015 brand new release car the same owner of this old car takes it in to fix and thinks sweet 40 bux or so to fix like the last car.
right this new car has a electronic button connected to a computer module connected via comunication data bus what one is irellevent but on this bus there is 100 other modules also talking on the same wires .
the manufacturer dealer plugs in his oem fancy scanner and reads out the codes. NO CODE
what so ever , now what.
Have they questioned the customer to ask them all and everything if not
what will they do. tell him nothing is wrong go away ? 1 possible example what i seen happen
or have they questioned the customer of any details no matter how unimportant it is , because that is what a real technition has to do.
So they question the client and he said one time the window did stop half way up but what has that got to do with the aircon not working now
so the technition asks what day was it happening morning evening was the car hot or cold all and everything matters , its like crime scene investigations on modern cars to find a fault .

client said yea always in the morning when it was raining ,
now this make no sense that he would mess with the windo when it rains but its only for this explenation of how complex things are.
the professional checks the windows and they work but one windo seems slower then the others in closing . So he pulls a wiring diagram and studys how things work

All 4 doors have a managment computer and the windo self close when aircon is on and the dashboard insrument tells the driver its going to close the windows for better fuel efficiency when reaching 80kph or more speed to meet euro 7 emission standards and save on your gas .
so is this guy going to replace the controller with the button because now he has 2 codes one for door controller intermittend no comunication and 1 code unknowen fault ac controller module?

the swaptron morons will pull code and see controller module code and fit a new module, this module costs 2500$ and must be programmed and can only be programmed once ,
they put a new one in and the problem is now worse because they programmed the module without a special battery stabilizer and the battery voltage droped out and corrupded the mdule. 2500$ down the drain plus they made 1 problem in to 2
the professional diagnostic technition is not going to fit a new module he mesures with a oscilloscope the modules imput and outputs and he sees its working so why would he replace that , he know the windo modules turn on the aircon only once windows are closed from his research.
And he knows intermittend fault in one module. So he opens the door and starts mesuring on this module with a scope seems fine , so he inspects the wiring loom and moves it and the aircon comes back online.
so he found the problem has to be in the loom and repairs the problem in the loom.
there is loads more remember there is 100 modules on this same wiring , this could just be a symptom that a other module created like a domino effect ,

i hope it has become clear that this guy is just happnd to guess right and how mutch times you can have a guess on modern cars as where on older cars after 4 guessings you would have guessed all possible causes that could exist.

Does this mean car manufacturers will warrant their cars for life.Hasnt this been suggested before in America.?

Great!

If buying a shiny new Camry means buying fewer rights than before, that means the cars will be cheaper than before, right?

Right?

Possible, not probable. In that scenario, I envision something along the lines of printers, cheap to buy with horrendous maintenance costs locked in at purchase time, with no transferable warranties.

I believe so, yes. That environment protection EPA outfit over there that seems to have a lot of say and sticks its nose into everything want not only manufacturers to minimise emissions created during a vehicles manufacture, its ongoing emission output during its life on the road, AND the vehicles decommissioning, break up and recycling to be the makers responsibility.

We will get better at hacking the systems. We will have to.

People have always modified, hacked the emission controls. They will hack and change things and have to accept responsibility for it.

Rip out the default electrics, rewire for a custom ECU and drive on.

Tell em to get stuffed! My car. I can do what I like to it. As long as any mods pass the regular tests, whats the issue? Lawyers not making enough money?
As above, lifetime warrenties? lifetime services? lifetime 'factory' updates?

Does that mean Mahindra, Great Wall and Chery etc will be popular vehicles for the car modifiers in NZ in a few years time? or Will there be some kind of copy right by extension from the original Mitsubishi etc designs?

No idea but its getting beyond redicules and this rules and nanni state regulations are coming back to roost now " with john key the hair puller" = everyone who tutches womens hair is a potential . pedofile?. Would be good if they get sent to jale so the government gungsters get to taste there own laws they made. The car stuff is more complex but similar ridicules rules are in force there like NOX on diesel is suposedly so bad , by whos standards some moron with no clue who made the rules just like tutch of hair = your a pedofile. that is where it shares its rediculessness.

Can you imagine it.The service dept for a major car distributor would be massive. employing thousands of "technicians"even in small towns and parts ,the queue would be miles and weeks long.