Can anyone make my decision between these two easier? Listing numbers 873034791 and 873498829. Have been looking and I can't decide
toyboy3,
Apr 25, 11:00am
4 photos and 8 photos how can you make any decision except blue or grey
kazbanz,
Apr 25, 11:14am
You are looking to invest thousands of dollars in either vehicle. so I would get a pre purchase inspection carried out on the one that seems nicest to you.
skull,
Apr 25, 11:19am
If I needed a towbar I could allow that to influence me either way depending on what it has been towing. 30k difference isn't much to worry about. You need to view and drive both of them, then make a decision and then get a PPI done on your choice then try and negotiate the price. Both in Chch so no excuse to not look at both.
thejazzpianoma,
Apr 25, 2:03pm
Easy! Fire up your lava lamp, put on your bell bottoms and accessorize with your favorite headband. then take a good look at both underneath and in the wheel arches, and pick the least rusty one.
Just like it's 1973!
kecal,
Apr 25, 2:34pm
the grey one comes with a pair of football boots if that helps sway the decision.
m16d,
Apr 25, 2:39pm
the gray one has had a repair to the arse end.
buyit59,
Apr 26, 11:26am
. How did you work that out ? . or do you own the blue one ?
upnorth,
Apr 26, 11:50am
Which one has a full ashtray?
motorboy2011,
Apr 26, 1:33pm
the grey bumper is a slightly different grey, so it's been repainted at some stage. It must be a few shades off to show in a photo.
thejazzpianoma,
Apr 26, 1:44pm
May not necessarily be the case. It's near impossible to get a very close colour match between metal panels and plastic panels, especially with metallics. This is true of factory finishes as well. The appearance can vary so much so that many car painters actually have a sign up in their reception explaining this so customers know what to expect.
Have a look at other pictures on trademe or wherever (More silver Mazda 6's if you really want) and you will see similar miss matches, lots of them. Some light will show it up better than others.
I think it's caused by how the solvent evaporates from the different surfaces, one of the car painters on here could tell you for sure.
Don't forget too, even if it has been repainted, it may just be due to something minor like marks from pulling something out of the boot.
thejazzpianoma,
Apr 26, 1:50pm
Here are some non-professional pictures on here of brand new or demo Mazda's where you will see the same effect.
Funny thing is much of it is psychological, we don't tend to notice it until something draws our attention to it. Unfortunately for car painters that can be when someone has their bumper resprayed, or in this instance where you are looking for signs of panel damage.
You can probably find worse ones than my examples here, they were just the first few that came up that were new but not pro photos and looked like they might have good corner shots.
gunhand,
Apr 26, 1:56pm
using the plastics as an excuse for different coloured paint is just an excuse for it not being right. What about cars that do have matching paint? Ive painted The odd car (and not with a spray can) over the years and oddly when plastic are painted along with rest of the car they don't change colour. It's cars sales BS. But in saying that most places won't take the time it takes to correctly match (and I don't blame them) or blend as margins are tight. And as jazz said, many don't notice or if they do don't care.
motorboy2011,
Apr 26, 2:22pm
Who's to say those brand new cars haven't had a scrape in transit and then require a lazy repair? I'm prob never going to be well off enough for a new car bit I can say if I was id jot be putting up with mismatched panels. Surely if technology is almost up to cars driving themselves, it's up to matching paint on different surfaces.
thejazzpianoma,
Apr 26, 2:49pm
Excuse or not, and for whatever reason. It exists on new cars (as above go and look at new car pics on here and see for yourself, or better yet take a stroll through a new car dealership).
Make of that what you will.
BTW. this is similar to the signs I have seen at panel repairers while doing the rounds.
Quite normal for metallic plastic bumpers to appear slightly different to the main body panels, some are like it from factory depending on the brand and manufacturing plant and the apparent difference can vary from almost non existent to quite noticeable depending on light intensity and angle. The same can be also said for door mirrors which generally are not as noticeable due to not being immediately adjacent to steel panels. Why? Neither of these components are sprayed with the rest of the body, its done in the plastics plant after manufacture or maybe even by the supplier if bought in from outside with different gear and with altered paint formula.
gunhand,
Apr 26, 3:03pm
It exists cause their useless and don't give a crap. Some a barely covered in paint and see through. Different angles work as an excuse cause its true, but not many bumpers flare off that much from a guard to change the angle. There is some truth to other excuses but the degree of colour difference is just pathetic on some new cars. We accept it so they do it.
kazbanz,
Apr 26, 3:11pm
sorry gunny I just don't agree with you. I know you are a professional but Ive seen it with my own eyes when bumper paint/mirror paint fades back different to metal panel painted areas. My guess would be that they are factory painted off the car and in bulk. so a run of red bumpers to go with a batch of red cars.
gunhand,
Apr 26, 3:19pm
Fades back? that has nothing to do with a brand new car with mismatched bumpers. And yes some are painted off the car elsewhere probably using a different batch and set up. It their excuses were correct then you could never have a plastic bumper the same colour as the car. and to say the substrate is different well being true, what happens when paint is applied over paint and still don't match? Its not then evaporating of raw plastics, or non colour primed raw platsics. How do some manufactures get it right and others don't?
thejazzpianoma,
Apr 26, 4:53pm
Just realised I came off a bit short with the tone of my comments. I asked for a professionals opinion, and you gave it, much appreciated! Was just trying not to cause a tangent.
BTW, I agree, some manufacturers can achieve a beautiful match. Our 156 JTS is a great example. Others seem to be all over the place, and not just in the miss match department.
I have strolled through Mercedes dealerships noticing really bad lemon peel effects on even their really top models. Likewise some of the cheap disposable rubbish like Nissan Tiida's and Note's have some real slap dash efforts and clearly poor undercoating.
jmma,
Apr 26, 5:08pm
I like this one out of the two 873498829, other one has a tow bar and a big trailer next to it. Paint looks alright to me (o:
gunhand,
Apr 26, 5:18pm
Didn't notice any shortness at all. As for orange peel, well mostly outside in the sun it disappears. Again, its accepted so it carries on. Some of the worst ive seen is on some new Ford Rangers, shocking. Not sure what the current batch is like though. When ya paying 30 40 70k plus for a new car you would want matching paint, well i would. And what of cars with some plastic panels, like guards etc that seem to match just fine when new. Its like everything these days, slipping standards and even a book of excuses to go with it.
treachug,
Feb 25, 3:01am
Yeah but the other one comes with a bottle of water to help keep the driver hydrated while on a trip
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