hi guys after years of going without a dirt bike ive decided to get another one :) ive always had 2 strokes but have decided to go for a 4 stroke because thats what everyone uses around here so thought id try one out
problem is i went into motorbike shop today was asking a few questions told him i was looking at a 2003 wr450f he said dont touch it to old then he asked what i wanted to spend then said he just traded in a 2012 i think wr250 i looked at him funny and said im 120kg think i need somthing bigger than a 250 4stroke but he reckons its more useable power than a wr450 and reckons it will stack wheelies with my fat ass on it
so my question .is he right? or is he being a sales man? im looking to spend about 5-6-7g on a bike and was keen on a 2003 wr450f that came with all these fancy bits and motard setup aswell as dirt and road legal but he didnt think i should touch it
and do you guys recommend any other bikes for my price range bearing in mind id like to get back to how i use to ride stacking wheelies and doing a few jumps here and there
cheers
tigertim20,
Nov 3, 4:42pm
I suppose you looked around and concluded that he did not, in fact have a 2003 WR450F on the floor available for purchase?
the 250 will let you ride around, but if you're out to have some fun, and have been on 2 strokes, I imagine youd get pissed off and bored pretty quick on what he's trying to sell you.
Usable power is a bullshit catchphrase that depends on many things, i.e. intended use and rider skill - these are things only you know.
Try elsewhere and get some thoughts. Id also try going on www.kiwibiker.co.nz and posting a thread asking what other bikes in a similar price range people would suggest as alternatives to the 450, and ask for pros and cons from people who have owned them.
The dirt section on there has some really helpful people
brapbrap8,
Nov 3, 4:43pm
I have a 2012 WR250F and I think it would be sweet for you. I am over 100kg with my gear on, and it is never short on power and mine is stock standard, still has the exhaust baffle in even. Much easier to ride than my old 2003 WR250F, the older bikes were more top end power, while the newer bikes have loads more power down low and are much quicker and easier to ride.
muzz67,
Nov 3, 4:44pm
Dont dismiss the wr250, but the grunt of a 450 is very nice.
berg,
Nov 3, 5:02pm
Having ridden both 2 and 4 strokes as motocross bikes I'd go the 4 stroke any day. 2012 WR250f will probably be far more refined than an old WR450f and will probably produce similar "usable" power. Sure, a 2012 WR450f will eat it but that's to be expected. As for me, I'm a proponent of the "big is good" theory. Might be worth hunting around for a 2010 onwards 450 if you can find one
trickynz,
Nov 3, 5:06pm
thanks for that i will go on kiwi biker i used to be a pretty decent rider but havnt been on dirt bike for many years probly not as good now but my train of thought hasnt changed so once im used to a bike id be doing same stuff as i used to
i used to ride with a ex motox rider who had 425 yamaha i think it was so i got good because i had to keep up with him on my rm125 that i bought off a motox rider so was a race bike i just had to work it harder than he did to keep up with him and even tho it was a 125 could still stack wheelies with me on it when i was about 100kg i also had a cr250 great bike loads of power didnt own it very long due to it not liking river crossings so drowned it and someone stole it after that
trickynz,
Nov 3, 5:09pm
yea thanks for that i think half my problem is i also have the "big is good" theory to
hfc2,
Nov 3, 6:09pm
I had a 125 2 stoke went real good but snappy power meant I could loose traction real quick , you have to really ride these bikes. As I got older I bought a RMX 450 Z great bike heaps of go but more ride able and not so whippy only thing a small 6 litre tank.
hfc2,
Nov 3, 6:15pm
also had a drz 400 with a yoshirmura pipe and header went real good great endure bike.
bigfatmat1,
Nov 3, 6:39pm
I Have a cr 250 and 125. both awesome bikes. I reckon changing from a cr250r to a 250 4 stroke would bore me. New fuel injected 250's def way better than they use to be but A 450 would be so much more fun
safteystv,
Nov 3, 6:56pm
look into the 300cc two strokes , most modern 4 strokes rebuild costs close to 3 or 4 grand at bike shops. please test ride your top picks , what sort of bike did use to ride the mx 250 strokers . enjoy and good luck. i ride, well sometimes now, an old xr400 , bored out race carb'd still not the best but mine. cheers
oliver6,
Nov 3, 8:30pm
I ride a KTM 300EXC, great bike with heaps of power. I have ridden most of the 4 strokes and I always think the WR450 is a bit twitchy, a race bike, and an older one will have the problems of age. The 250s handle well but are a bit light on power. I would recommend an older KTM 300 or a Gas Gas 300, both good bikes and cheap to rebuild.
kazbanz,
Nov 4, 7:28am
trickynz-MODERN 250 four strokes do make power totally different that in the old days. My suggestion to you would be to see if you can throw a leg over a couple of rental bikes to get a feel for what YOU are happy with. given its 7k or so you are playing with then a couple or test rides are well worth doing.
brapbrap8,
Nov 4, 8:08am
Also, why not look at a 350? A mate bought a mint KTM 350XCF for under $7k.
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