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shorebee, Nov 16, 1:00pm
Yes it did, Thats why i started this thread as that was the first i knew of it.

tgray, Nov 16, 2:28pm
Tell them to fix it or you are going to report them to the Commerce Commission for trying to contract out of their legal obligations.

tony9, Nov 16, 2:47pm
CGA cannot be contracted out, as has been repeated too many times, that deals with the As Is part. But by agreeing to Where Is, you have entered into a contract to deal with the trade where the dealer is. You need to get it back to the dealer to continue the resolution.

vtecintegra, Nov 16, 2:48pm
You'd be better off taking the refund IMO - that is not a good car to own once the mileage gets up

kazbanz, Nov 16, 3:12pm
How do you think that's gonna go down mate?
yep they tried to contract out of obligations.
Ohh did they?
Yep.
So what happened when the car developed a fault ?
They made it clear they would refund the full purchase price when the vehicle is returned to them.

tgray, Nov 16, 3:36pm
Yes, my previous post may have been a bit harsh, but I know dealers who pay no tax and don't fill out CIN forms and get away with it time and time again and I just get frustrated sometimes.
It's completely out of control and there is virtually no enforcement of the rules.
I bet this dealer knows they shouldn't be getting customers to sign illegal waivers, but do so because most of the public are willing to, and don't know better.
I just sold a 1994 car today for a $350 gross mark up and the customer is fully aware they can call me up if something goes wrong. All their rights are fully explained on the paperwork. Not complaining as that's the law, but it seems so many traders are circumventing it. Why? Because they can, and no one is doing anything about it.

kazbanz, Nov 16, 6:22pm
Toby --mate --it is what it is. its unfortunate that your target audience puts you smack bang in competition with those bottom feeders you are refering to. I don't feel that this is the case in the OP's situation as they appear to be a disposal division for a large reputable chain. (unless Im reading wrong)
They haven't dilly dallied around which lets face it the bottom feeders WOULD do. They have immediately offered the OP their money back.

I have to say that in my opinion a MUCH bigger crime/issue is that scumbags are deliberately importing complete and utter piles of faeces.
That is to say deliberately buying accident damaged,water damages,rusty piles of cack.
They fix them up and sell to the unsuspecting public with NO comeback once the car has moved to a second owner.
There is NOTHING on record without a really deep dig through records as to who the actual importer was.
So they get off scott free importing hundreds of these cars.
THAT is a much bigger issue IMO

tgray, Nov 17, 5:47am
I get your point mate.
One could say however, that importing an accident damaged car, fixing it and selling it to the public is perfectly legal and the strict compliance process ensures that they are checked thoroughly and are safe for NZ roads.
What this dealer is doing is NOT legal.
Obviously completely different scenarios, but just a point I wanted to make, cheers.

kazbanz, Nov 17, 8:13am
NO NO NO toby-- the ol devils in the detail.
The detail being NOT ticking "imported as a damaged vehicle" on the CIN card. Its a TINY tickbox and deemphasised yet it means a LOT.
THAT is illegal.

shorebee, Oct 8, 12:03pm
Update, Ford gave a clean bill of health after all the software updates as had been serviced at a non ford, was some damage to a cartridge over the filter due to using wrong tools to replace filters so an extra $150 but all up it appears A OK.