How does a van with a back seat get a WOF without seatbelts? Do vans with fold up rear seats not need belts?
kazbanz,
Mar 11, 7:54pm
Old enough van--no worries. Newer van--owner removes seat for WOF
naki-lad,
Mar 11, 8:00pm
So if I retro fit some belts do they have to be complient?
rctr,
Mar 11, 8:19pm
Yes and certed
tamarillo,
Mar 12, 5:20am
Question, do you want to be in accident with friends, kids, relatives, in rear seats that weren't compliant and fixed securely, and not wearing seat belts?
bjmh,
Mar 12, 6:03am
Just been through the drama of an owner removing the rear seat. Because it was originally certed for a seat and belts. it had to be recerted for no seat and belts. bureaucracy at its finest.
martin11,
Mar 12, 6:13am
Drive down the road and get pulled up "TICKET". Have an accident and people on seat injured or killed in the S--T big time .
mrfxit,
Mar 12, 6:27am
Any chance of pointing us at the reg's. Seems pretty nutty because the seats wouldn't have been a structural member of the vans framing.
Unless it's the insinuation of increased capacity & weight.
On the other side, I have been told that if when refitting seats that the OEM factory seat & seat belt mounts are correct, (& the belts are in good condition) then it won't need certing
kazbanz,
Mar 12, 6:40am
Different kettle of fish that one
kazbanz,
Mar 12, 6:41am
The OP asked for the legal definition. -that is the legal definition.-in laymans terms.
mrfxit,
Mar 12, 6:44am
. Just rereading that which brings up the translation question.
Did the van not have OEM seats originally from factory & were the current seat & belt mounts aftermarket manufactured (Not OEM to that specific van)
bjmh,
Mar 12, 6:52am
mrfxit wrote:
Any chance of pointing us at the reg's. Seems pretty nutty because the seats wouldn't have been a structural member of the vans framing. This van was sold new with a certed rear seat and belts,the trucking company that brought it didn't want the seat. so the Mitzi dealer removed the seat.The van has been getting wof's till it went to a vtnz. who rightly noted the cert plate for the rear seat. but no seat or belts.It had to go to a low volume certifier who recerted it without a seat etc.I think this is the regs. Note 3 Definitions
Modify means to change a vehicle from its original state by altering, substituting, adding or removing a structure, system, component or equipment, but does not include repair.
naki-lad,
Mar 12, 8:14pm
Thanks all for the info. I think I'm more confused now though. Van has OEM fold up rear seat. 2000 Nissan Caravan . just passed new WOF with no belts fitted. I just wondered how? I will probably remove seat but may consider leaving if I don't have to fit new belts at many $$$
My last Hiace was an 05 and had 2 sets of rear seats fitted (9 seater). It never had seatbelts. I bought it from a Toyota dealer as a fresh import and I asked if it needed seatbelts and he replied it didnt. I removed the rear set of sets immediately turning it into a 6 seater. Sometimes I would also remove the 2nd row of seats making it just a 3 seater but whichever way it went in for its WoF, it always passed for the 6 years I owned it. Most but not all of my warrants were from VTNZ
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