at one time you were only allowed 2 lights facing oncoming traffic ( when on dip obviously ) has this changed
the regs on fog lights used to be they were not allowed to be on with the headlights turned on
has this also changed
theres a lot of vehicles out there with 4 at least, sometimes more
gunhand,
Jul 3, 4:57pm
I have no idea but it's bloody annoying having car after car with all manner of lighting in front. Me ol eyes just don't cope like they did in the 20s I always thought it was two but there seem to be many factory extra ones these days. Or the owners just haven't worked out where the off switch is.
lookoutas,
Jul 3, 5:04pm
It seems that if the manufacturers fit lights that go in unregulated sequence, then it's OK. Guess it's something to do with who holds the biggest stick, wins. And that's not our government.
saxman99,
Jul 3, 5:05pm
Not legal to use fog lights at all unless foggy. Every now and then the cops do a blitz on it. Usually the lights are just ignored.
skin1235,
Jul 3, 5:08pm
is it okay to have the normal headlights and a lower set of ""drive" lights ( equally as bright if not brighter) lower in the valance - they don't appear to be controlled by the dip switch
skin1235,
Jul 3, 5:11pm
I do know they're fekkin annoying when driving westward in a drizzle, am sure there was a rule re 2 only forward when on dip, has it changed, or now just ignored ( think of the revenue that could be gathered if just occasionally they pulled a few over, theres thousands of them out there
gmphil,
Jul 3, 5:12pm
had wot some people call day lights in my commy in lower valance had separate switch
skin1235,
Jul 3, 5:13pm
fog lights are yellow and aimed low to avoid reflection back into the drivers eyes - these lights I'm talking about are bright white or even incandescent blue
brapbrap8,
Jul 3, 5:17pm
What is the reasoning behind that? Can't say I have ever been bothered by vehicles with foglights on in fine weather.
lookoutas,
Jul 3, 6:05pm
You can't set up a vehicle to have driving lights on with other main beams, but as I alluded to above - if the manufactures built a vehicle with that configuration, then no-one is gunna buck them.
skin1235,
Jul 3, 6:08pm
I hear you, I thought it was part of the WOF standards that the drives were to be inoperable when main lights were on dip
Dipped beam headlamps are used for lighting the way ahead of the vehicle at night. The beam pattern is controlled so that the driver can see the road ahead without causing glare to other road users. (Dipped beam and main beam headlamps are often combined into one lamp.) Fitting requirements
All vehicles are fitted with one or two dipped beam headlamps as original equipment. You may not fit any additional dipped beam headlamps to a vehicle. Dipped beam headlamps must be white or amber in colour.
On the road
Dipped beam headlamps should be used during the hours of darkness and whenever visibility is poor. Because they are dipped, they can be safely used in all conditions without dazzling other road users.
skin1235,
Jul 3, 6:31pm
Main beam headlamps
Main beam headlamps are used for lighting the way a long way ahead of the vehicle. Because they are not dipped, they will dazzle other road users if not used properly. (Dipped beam and main beam headlamps are often combined into one lamp.) Additional main beam headlamps are also known as ???driving lamps??
skin1235,
Jul 3, 6:35pm
does that read as you may have 4 lights on high
only have 2 lights on dip
on dip all other lights must turn off
is it just me, or does it mean when I see 4 lights coming at me, the other driver has not dipped his lights, or bypassed a switch to make the lower drive lights stay on at all times
gunhand,
Jul 3, 6:38pm
Yup, or they still haven't found the appropriate switch.
stevo2,
Jul 3, 6:41pm
Jezz Gun, you must be old if you were around in the 20's
gunhand,
Jul 3, 6:46pm
I'm just in denial at the mo. Got this hankering for a red sports car and a 18yo large Breasted girl. No idea whats going on lol. Buy yea all the bloody lights coming toward you gets tiring quickly as you age. Normal low beams are fine.
wind.turbine,
Jul 3, 7:12pm
had what at first looked like a 4x4 heading towards me a few nights ago, I saw the main headlights then there were 2 big circle spots in the middle, main headlights were definitely not on high beam but was only as I went passed that I realized it was just an old crappy hatchback, did not suit it tbh.
But yea, the spots should have only been going with the high beam.
Fog lights I dont really mind these days as with headlights being as bright as they are today, the fog lights them selves dont seem to be as blinding as they once were with dinner bulbs.
What I am getting worked up about is all these new cars coming out with LED DRL, that have not been wired to turn off when the main headlights are on. They are fine during the day but at night they really strain the eyes!
frytime,
Jul 3, 7:37pm
So 2 dipped head lights. 4 main beam headlights. No more than 6 lights on at a time (you are allowed fog lights also which are normally lower to the ground and point down twice as much as dipped beam) hope this helps
lookoutas,
Jul 3, 8:16pm
What skin posted above is exactly how you would build a fresh car or modify an older car. But lets look at 2 countries/makes supplying 2 of my cars.
Subaru:- (and many other makes) Has driving lights that come on with the park lights. (not a problem) They stay on when the headlights are switched onto dip. (shouldn't be allowed - but it is. And this couldn't be done on a MkII Zephyr) They still stay on when the headlights are on hi-beam (not a problem with a single light configuration)
06 Mustang:- Has driving lights that come on with the park lights. (not a problem) They stay on when the headlights are switched onto dip. (Just like the Subaru, and shouldn't) They switch off when the headlights are switched on Hi! (which isn't necessary) So here I am, driving along on Hi with 2 lights going, meet gunhand and dip lights, finish up with 4 lights going, and gun is thinking he has to go blind coz he can see 4 lights.
Should edit:- because those cars are manufactured like this, it's deemed as OK. (or is it "Don't try and screw around where there's money")
gunhand,
Jul 3, 8:24pm
LOL, yea something like that. I used to drive for a job at night and I can tell you facing 4 oncoming lights gets annoying. Thing is some of the lower lights (fog or whatever) don't do any harm as they are probably adjusted correctly. It just seems a lot are in ya face so to speak. Could be just an adjustment issue.
Oh, and I'm sure some cars you can turn them off, the lower ones that is. I'm sure my Subaru had a switch for that, something I owned did.
lookoutas,
Jul 3, 8:29pm
We're in the time when we have to adjust our thinking, that 4 lights doesn't necessarily mean "The prick hasn't dipped so I'll give him a shine-up back"
I always thought it was a bit stupid to do this at someone who hasn't dipped, and then have two people who can't see where they're going.
2sheddies,
Jul 3, 8:39pm
Worst are the late model Commodores. those low slung spotlights are blindingly bright. If we retrofitted similar lights to our cars, we'd be pulled up in no time.
gunhand,
Jul 3, 8:39pm
I'm well aware their main lights are on dip, its the fogs or spots that cause issue.
skin1235,
Jul 3, 8:56pm
not so often nowadays, but as a younger fella when confronted with headlights on high heading my way I used to turn all my lights off, flick across onto the right, then flick them back on, then off and flick back to the left Used to think it was a good buzz to scare the fek out of the igjut who didn't dip his lights until one night I did it, and the guy drove off the side of the road into the ditch at about 80 kmhr, big ditch with water in the bottom turned around further down the road and came back and hauled him out, he was rather irate and vocal about the dick he claimed ran him off the road, no he wasn't DIC, and luckily not hurt, his car took a beating though, he had no idea it was the same guy helping him get out of the ditch that supposedly 'put' him there
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