having always been a Ford person,need some opinons please
my daughters VW beetle has been written off,she is looking at a 2007 Renault Megane hard top and a Peugoet 307 CC hard top same year both have done around 70k,any mechanics out there with opinions on which is the better of the two she finds the Peugoet 207 a bit too small
intrade,
Dec 6, 4:33pm
well 2 things speake against both of these. Now renault is not as bad a french crap as peugeot is but you wont find any parts at normal prices in this country for renault. What they do is make you wait for parts and then charge you over 500% more at renault main dealer as to what you can buy parts when you walk in the door at a renault dealer in europe or order parts online your self. Now peugeot and citroen are psa froggy crap i think that should be enough reason not to buy the junk. if you want to know more about psa junk you would need to talk to the exclusive bretherens they used to have all peugeots in the 1990s
saxman99,
Dec 6, 4:34pm
We are very happy with our 307 (hatch not CC). 265000 k on it and no issues. Ours is manual, Avoid automatic Peugeot, they don't enjoy a good reputation.
For servicing and parts either source and do your own work and parts or employ an independent specialist. Avoid franchise dealers, unless you feeling rich.
fish_n_doodles,
Dec 6, 4:34pm
im a holden person and in my opinion id rather she got a ford. (-: good luck mate
curlcrown,
Dec 6, 4:38pm
The Peugeot would be better than the renault in the same way as eating dry cow poo would be better than eating fresh dog poo.
intrade,
Dec 6, 4:49pm
i better erase that just bumped the pile of junk peugeot thread.
mals69,
Dec 6, 4:59pm
Talk her into a jappa "that is european inspired"
kazbanz,
Dec 6, 5:29pm
I was about to give my opinion of both options but it really wouldn't be very helpful-(DONT do it at all buy jap) MY suggestion would be-rather than taking the jap biased view point of the posters on here to use google and find out the pro's and cons in a European forum.
The labour costs here are about bang on if you just use a dollar sighn instead of a pound sighn. The PARTS prices though are roughly 3 times those in Britain.
tamarillo,
Dec 6, 5:32pm
What a bunch of negatives. Peugeot best bet of two, apart from anything much more common here for parts. Mechanically it's just a plain Jane pug same bits as Citroen and millions of people use them. Usual caveat of full Independant inspection. Be very sure roof mechanism works perfectly as I imagine that could be tricky. Great fun, good on her.
westwyn,
Dec 6, 5:39pm
Both the Megane and the CC enjoy a reputation amongst the trade to "be avoided at all cost" thus their resale value (or more importantly, your ability to offload one after you've finished with it) is abysmally low. Whether that's dealer bias, or not, is up to you to judge. Most dealers tend to make hard decisions based upon their chequebooks, we soon work out the cost = benefit ratio of certain models on average. Anecdotally (but very informed) I understand the roof mechanism of the CC is known to be troublesome and expensive to fix. If she wants to drive an older European car, IMHO there are better options out there than these two.
djrandomguy,
Dec 6, 9:55pm
Peugeot invented the CC. Everyone copied them after the success of the 206cc. We're all over them now as they add weight and take up load space. The 307 isn't the best model Peugeot ever made, you should try to find a well cared for 306 convertible. As for parts, Intrade once again has his **** up his *** because he had a problem with a car once and cannot seem to get past it. Parts are not hard to come by, there is an excellent aftermarket for them now as well as loads of support from dedicated PSA workshops. Yes a Corolla will be cheaper to maintain but will hurt your eyes to look and the interior may out you into a coma. 306 convertible, phase 3 if you can.
stbossman,
Dec 7, 4:38am
can you tell the difference between a 306 and 307 please
djrandomguy,
Dec 7, 9:25am
306 is the earlier shape, production ended in 2001. This model was designed by Pininifarina and the design has aged well. It is a manually operated soft top convertible rather than being a folding metal roof.
200sx,
Dec 7, 12:00pm
If you are set on either option, don't buy an automatic. No matter the price or condition of the rest of the vehicle. Even if it comes with an aftermarket warranty. Unreliable, almost undrivable clunky, jerky, unintelligent pieces of crap. And they seem to fail before 100,000km even if you are one of the few people on this earth who are wise enough to service your French auto transmission when its due. If its manual, different story - but I'm suspecting it will be auto. Its the major archilles heal of both makes. Look elsewhere if you want an auto. I've driven both in the past 18 months, I'd have the 307 as a manual if it was a good one (not sure on their availability as a manual in the CC though).
ignition328,
Dec 7, 12:40pm
The difference is 1
supernova2,
Dec 7, 12:56pm
I like Renault and have owned several however i would not recommend any Renault to a person who only owns one car. The only economic way to get parts is to source them yourself from Europe. That could mean you are walking for 2 or 3 weeks. Unfortunately there are not enough about in NZ to get reasonable prices for 2nd hand bits either.
Peugeot a bit better but TBH I think you are probably better off in the long run with something more mainstream (for NZ) - in other words a Nissan, Mazda or a Toyota.
vtecintegra,
Jul 22, 9:26pm
Or better yet just a 306 hatch
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