conformity is a state best understood by potential EV owners, owners of Rangers , euro's and 2.3 litre eco boost mustangs, The opposite of this is owners of V8 Holdens, dodges and chevs who are driven by not wanting to be a sheep even if they pay an extra 20 bucks a week for fuel.
tony9,
Aug 5, 3:14am
Yes, and $20 a week is cheap entertainment.
apollo11,
Aug 5, 3:18am
You don't have a good grasp of irony, do you?
azzab54,
Aug 5, 3:43am
Haha.
gunhand,
Aug 5, 3:45am
I could be wrong but are you implying that because people buy thousands upon thousand of a certain model car (which you dislike) that make them conformists and just follow the trend, i:e sheep. Sheep or sheeple, a popular term used for so called people who do what everyone else does and supposedly somehow unimaginative and just followers. Which for some reason is a bad thing apparently. Fine, you do not like certain makes and models for your own reasons, which is fine and you are untitled too. However, how does such thinking come into play when you promote what you do like. Surely the most popular car in the world made buy the biggest manufacture in the world (or something like that) is sold to millions in that block of the world, correct? So that makes all those people what? Sheep maybe? Must be as they are all driving the same thing, just like here, but the models you dislike. And to anyone who thinks they somehow are different, well you are not. May have differing DNA from the rest but thats where it ends. In the car world, you may drive/ride a single cylinder up to 12 or more, but so what millions of others do too. Unless you designed and built your own car you are not unique, even the materials and tyres will be the same as used on millions of others. And just the very fact that we post on a MSG board makes us the same as millions of others as well. I'm sorry but trying to be a non conformist in the world just makes those who try the same as all the others who try.
apollo11,
Aug 5, 4:00am
Our jails are full of non-conformists.
sw20,
Aug 5, 4:19am
Golf biggest selling car in Europe up until 2017.
Conformity or just a product that suits it's market?
apollo11,
Aug 5, 4:25am
Non-conformists walk around town with no pants on. Pants are conformist.
snoopy221,
Aug 5, 4:41am
Yep we all follow the masses. statistics covering new vehicle registrations for the opening half of 2017 show that of the top 10 best-selling vehicles, five of them are utes and three of them SUVs. Oh - and one of the others is a van, which we figure could qualify as both a ute and an SUV.
And that means that there is just one vehicle in our Top 10 that could be described as a conventional car. It's the Toyota Corolla, the vehicle that always figures on the lists of top sellers anywhere in the world.
the list in order from No 1 to No 10.
Ford Ranger
This ute is so popular that it keeps breaking its own records
And the Big question here is what was the ute here?
Two occupants from one of the cars involved died at the scene.
Another victim from the same car was taken to Hawke's Bay Hospital on Thursday evening with serious injuries.
There were two people in the other car involved in the crash – a man who was taken to hospital with minor injuries and discharged on Thursday night, and a woman who was uninjured.
Is this FINALLY where we have a SAFE vehicle against an UNSAFE vehicle
tony9,
Aug 5, 4:43am
Toyota Corolla is Worlds best selling car, however most people do not buy a Toyota Corolla, does that make Toyota Corolla owners non-conformists?
trogedon,
Aug 5, 5:10am
There is useful conformity (turning up at work and doing the job to get the $) to achieve things and lack of useful conformity to prove one is different / makes less than wise decisions. "The opposite of this is owners of V8 Holdens, dodges and chevs who are driven by not wanting to be a sheep even if they pay an extra 20 bucks a week for fuel." An example of the later.
thejazzpianoma,
Aug 5, 5:42am
LOL, I was actually having a little chuckle about group opinions rather than anything specific to do with any particular vehicle.
If you want to go down that track. here are my views.
If a vehicle is popular because it's a good logical choice, then that's how it should be. When a vehicle that is far from the best for the purpose is popular purely for psychological reasons, then that's not so good.
When you delve in to the psychology of advertising, decision making, personal biases, group psychology etc. It becomes very apparent, seldom is the best product the most popular and products can be turned from sales flops to sales success's in the most counter intuative of ways.
If I remember right it was Malcom Gladwell that talked about "Oust" and how it was an amazing product with a real advantage but had to be turned in to a top seller by playing psychological games because people were just not thinking logically.
Dan Arielly has written a couple of fantastic books on this sort of thing too.
thejazzpianoma,
Aug 5, 5:44am
Overall this place is absolutely fascinating, the more I learn about humans the more I see it played out in here like perfect examples in a text book. Some of the most impressive of late has been the car dealers and how they deal with cognitive dissonance.
thejazzpianoma,
Aug 5, 5:51am
BTW, thanks everyone for taking an interest in this. I actually started the thread as a joke but it is truly fascinating stuff.
Here is a link to a random bit of Dan Ariely for those who are keen, he has so many lectures and is absolutely fascinating. His buying decisions stuff is so relevant to motor vehicles everyone should become familiar with it.
The moot point is jazz You ALWAYS denounce safety ratings on certain vehicles.
Hard to tell by the pic in the link i posted . However the more someone denounces safety ratings and implies some ARE safer than others.
Where oh where does this show in accidents?
Therin we FINALLY have an accident with statistics of 2 dead in ONE vehicle . And no injury and minor injuries in the other vehicle.
So can't honestly tell from pic. What is the ute?
snoopy221,
Aug 5, 5:54am
Post 17 REAL WORLD STATISTICS.
August 3 2018 Napier New Zealand
gunhand,
Nov 4, 9:53pm
Interesting. So it seems people from over there in Euro land are far more savy than people who live in this little back water. Oddly, I have not seen on mainstream advertising media that will reach most at one time or other advertise the cars you dislike. I have seen one being advertised before the news and here and there tho. Seen quite a bit of euro adverts, but these are new of course not a few years old which is what we are (well some) are discussing. Or perhaps we have residual memory of such cars being advertised? Hmmm naa. Don't think we advertise JUCs on main media. Of course this medium and similar do. Even then there is not that many areas they advertise. Of course word of mouth is also advertising. But of course you were not talking cars in a motoring forum so my points are mute anyway. But talking cars, what would happen I wonder if JUCs were introduced on mass into euro places? And while we are chuckling I was watching the rectangle one day and spotted a Camry taxi in Euro land. I giggled like a school girl for days. But it was prob some sad sack Kiwi who started a taxi business over there, if you can even do that easily?
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