My car got a WOF in late April and a few days ago one of my back brakes started making a horrible noise . Took it to a mechanic and it turns out one of my rear brake pads has completely worn out and its down to the steel which has now fkd the disk aswell. I have traveled around 5000 k since the new wof was given . On my WOF sheet there is no comments or anything that mention the brakes are low and need replacing and im starting to wonder if it should of passed in the first place with the brakes so low. Had they mentioned this to me I would of had them done without having to folk out for a new disk aswell . Do I have any leg to stand on going back to the wof place and pointing this out to them? I cant drive the car until it gets fixed later this week :I TIA
gph1961,
Jul 23, 6:12am
nup
bastardsquad,
Jul 23, 6:13am
Brake pad thickness isnt a WOF item, brake function is. You did 5000 km post WOFlol, a lot can happen in that time.Also, how did you fk the disc? Did you ignore the grinding noise for weeks on end?
intrade,
Jul 23, 6:15am
yea a wof is only realy for So the parkingwarden and police cant give you a infringment notice. its nothing more its definetly not a check if your car is ok for real and its absolutly not a service Wof are just a money maker scam.
skatz1,
Jul 23, 6:20am
well surly you need brake pads to pass a wof. the disc is fkd because I drove it to work friday with the noise. no need for the smart ass comments ofcourse I didnt drive it weeks on end . I transport the kids in the car!
kazbanz,
Jul 23, 6:23am
what the heck happened to accepting personal responsibility? Scatz The WOF guy didn't drive the car for 5000km post WOF You did. The WOF Guy didn't ignore the sound of metal on metal -the cause of the damaged disk YOU did.--how can anyone but you be responsible?
snoopy221,
Jul 23, 6:24am
One brake. and 5000 kilometres And the VIRM states where the service lining can be seen as in by visual inspection.
[which due to inherent vehicle design is NOT always possible.]
Let alone on a rear disc brake/handbrake system a simple actuating cable for the hand brake can be binding and cause excessive wear on ONE side
and a few days ago one of my back brakes started making a horrible noise . Took it to a mechanic and it turns out one of my rear brake pads has completely worn out
There are FOUR brake pads. So ONE may have worn as the result of a problem and the noise well That required IMMEDIATE action
franc123,
Jul 23, 6:24am
Brakes are a maintenance cost and the responsibility of the vehicle owner, if the pads were getting low but were still above a minimum acceptable thickness at the WoF check (they are supposed to be visually checked where it's possible to do so without dismantling) how do you know that a caliper slide or the piston hadn't started to jam and not release properly? Yes a good inspector would give you an advisory on this but they are under no obligation to do so, WoFs are only a statement that an inspector was satisfied that a vehicle complied on the day it was inspected, its not a substitute for timely brake maintenance as part of your scheduled service or any guarantee of compliance into the future.
ianab,
Jul 23, 6:25am
While many WOF places will point out "Items that need attention soon", it's not a legal requirement.
Local testing station pointed out that the front discs on the wifes Caldina where getting down. She wasn't doing many k's so it was 6 months before it actually needed them, and got them done at the next service.
Heck it's even possible that the pad had a good 25% left 5,000 ks ago, which isn't a problem for another 25K, but since then a caliper has started dragging and chewed out the pad and disk.
Sorry but a WOF isn't the same as service.
skatz1,
Jul 23, 6:27am
Did I once say I wasn't taking responsibility? Im asking if they were that low should they have passed at the wof. Brake pads take ages to wear out so 5000 is nothing in comparison . Im a female I dont know these things, but seems you people are just a bunch of horrible humans
johotech,
Jul 23, 6:29am
You forgot to mention that the WOF guy didn't drive to the shops with the handbrake on either.
snoopy221,
Jul 23, 6:30am
Actually think not one but two warrant of fitness ISSUERS-[Qualified AVIC'S] have posted in here #7 and #8
Im a female I dont know these things, but seems you people are just a bunch of horrible humans
So how long before the WOF in April was your last service? If you're doing 5000km in 3 months, it can't be much longer before April right? Within this year at least?
Did you're service guy mention that your brakes are getting down?
kazbanz,
Jul 23, 6:35am
you are trying to blame the WOF guy --if you weren't then you wouldn't have asked the question. You carefully skated past the part where you chose to drive the car with the brakes screeching. But anyhoo-EITHER there is a mechanical fault developed in that caliper OR the other side will be equally worn. So you might be up for two disks. if the other side still has plenty of meat on the pads I would definitely be looking for the cause OR you might be up for another disk a lot sooner than expected.
franc123,
Jul 23, 6:35am
What constitutes an acceptable minimum thickness varies between inspectors and vehicle manufacturers but on average its between 1 and 2mm. The responses you got are not a personal insult, they are unfortunate truth. At least three people in this thread deal with these issues professionally, its valid advice.
snoopy221,
Jul 23, 6:40am
The REASON we FAIL on ! minimum thickness! Is because the friction material is bonded-as in GLUED to the steel backing . And in a serious panic stop a pad UNDER minimum thickness will allow the bonding resin to overheat and the friction material WILL remove itself from the backing . And the ONE time you NEED those brakes as survival and use them HARD.
Is why i probably am more likely to fail on ! minimum thickness than ANYONE.
skatz1,
Jul 23, 6:42am
thanks for your repsonse. I was not sure if this was a wof requirement or not. Im not blaming the wof guy. The car got a service in December and wasnt driven for a while. I was genuinely wanting to know not have stupid comments thrown at me like I drove with my hand brake on iv driven with the noise for weeks. if they were in the know they would be aware of the noise. I have booked it to get fixed and know better not to come ask for advice on here. Thanks :)
snoopy221,
Jul 23, 6:47am
I have booked it to get fixed and know better not to come ask for advice on here. Thanks :)
Ah well those of us that have seen factory brand new vehicles with too much preload on a brake master cyl resulting in a dual circuit diagonal split and ONE brake being worn out pads and the other brand new pads virtually
Wish Ya well ! God Bless!
franc123,
Jul 23, 6:49am
Not driven for a while as in a few months? Maybe left with the park brake on for all that time? It's possible that didn't help the issue if so.
gammelvind,
Jul 23, 7:09am
Yes you do need brake pads to pass a wof, but with a lot of wof testing they simply measure the effectiveness of the brakes, yours obviously passed. Yes no doubt they were on their last legs, personally I would be a bit miffed if the mechanic didn’t point out that the pads were nearly finished but he has no obligation to do so. Many brakes these days have wear indicators on them, I presume yours isn’t one of those, these save that terrible metal grinding that the worn pads give the discs. If you think the mechanic is any good, maybe you can negotiate a deal, if not find another and get the brakes replaced.
clark20,
Jul 23, 7:17am
Skatz1, some do not last too long, my Mums old Astra had new rotors and pads at 30,000km. While my first Commodore got 90,000km (but not my Redline with brembos, done about 35,000km), so it could have been 2-3mm at warrant time so OK.
pico42,
Jul 23, 7:22am
1. You are looking for a way to pass some of the responsibility onto others with “Had they mentioned this to me I would of had them done without having to folk out for a new disk aswell . Do I have any leg to stand on going back to the wof place and pointing this out to them†2. Being female is of no relevance to your knowledge. 3. Horrible humans? For providing a reality check?
gph1961,
Jul 23, 7:30am
oh dear she has gone away sad cos she did not hear what she wanted to hear blub blub
snoopy221,
Jul 23, 7:44am
Nek Minut
ya park a car up with the handbrake on and the cable sticks and the collett chuck causes it to wear out ONE rear brake pad and whaddya know?
Not da woof man but da garage mechanic now reckons it needs MORE new parts,,,,,
get fixed and know better not to come ask for advice on here. Thanks :)
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