And in my opinion, their method doesn't seem very clever I haven't calculated the energy loss in the process but I suspect way more than the 30% they allude to
You would be way ahead to use the sawdust in pyrolitic gasifers, such were being used in the latter part of the 19th century industrially for goodness sake and in the 1st and 2nd WW for powering motor vehicles . I think it was call C3 ?
The Germans where producing fuel in WW2 by a chemical process on cellulose plant fiber and i'm sure were also hot on the trail of using a bacterial system . which the yanks are spending a considerable sum of $'s on at present
Do you whatch thunderfoot he is pritty good in debunking the delusions . you got to question how many retards are on this planet with things like solar roadways. Or water from thin air. Wood gas furnace already exist and operate since 25 years or more on houses in switzerland who burn firewood to meet emissions. i run a decomeissoned multiburner Wood-oil from 1960 in my shop up north. it was only used with oil burner head so was almost new inside when i got it for burning wood and coal now :)
mrcat1,
Jul 21, 8:27pm
Its simply wood alcohol, nothing new in that, it comes off in the early stages of distillation when making ethyl alcohol. Only difference is wood alcohol will make you blind and is poisonous but wont matter getting used as a fuel.
marte,
Jul 21, 9:22pm
If you do the same thing to plastic, you get a liquid fuel. Certain plastics give you a 50% return per pass of diesel. I think its the white plastic that washing machines are made from. In the end there's a solid carbon residue & I'd love to know the liquids actual components, I'd expect a whole bunch of cancer causing chemicals, but there's probably lots of useful stuff to, chemical precursors, though God knows what the Bromine does in there.
I did it to some plastic coated Copper wire once & got a real stinky sulphur fume & a small amount of a clear light gold coloured very highly volatile (damn near explosive) liquid. It looked like it would make a great petrol. Its gone blackish over several years (in a small plastic bottle with water) but didn't dissolve the bottle at all. I only got about 50 mls before the neighbour complained about the smell. By then the sulphur (dioxide?) had killed my sense of smell so I was only getting slight wiffs of it.
Anyway. What happens if you pump recycled plastic granules back down a used oil well? Will the plastic reform back into oil from the pressure & heat?
budgel,
Jul 21, 9:45pm
Nothing. You would need more pressure from your pump to get it to move.
apollo11,
Jul 21, 10:14pm
What are you on about intrade, have you never used a dehumidifier?
Checking on C3 fuel in Germany reveals it was a Superior octane grade than the B4 both of which were derived from the brilliant efforts of German chemists for the hydrogenation of coal
I know there was a big effort in Germany in the 1930's > 40's to produce methyl alc by using heat and acids to breakdown the cellulose fibers so enzymes / yeast could work on the sugars and starches
As I mentioned solid fuel gassifers are probably the most efficient form of energy conversion from biowaste
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