EVs use a similar method by way of regenerative braking. Converting kinetic energy back into battery charge other than from the braking process is just a waste of existing battery charge used to do so.
bitsy_boffin,
Apr 8, 10:47pm
There's lots of charging places in most parts of the country, and more every day, even out in the wops.
As for dynamos, they convert your body's unwanted potential energy (I'm not fat, I just have a large potential energy store) into electric energy. Regen is the same, converting unwanted kinetic energy into useful electric energy. Ony make sense when you have some energy you don't want and turn it into some form of energy you can use.
bill-robinson,
Apr 9, 5:20am
the only way ev.s will replace ice is by force. in the form of legislation, followed bt confiscation. the cc'ers have got things totally wrong but they spend large on twisting govt arms that the govt has given up. ask your local CC'er how much CO2 is being emitted by the icelandic volcano. that is nature and they want control of nature.
apollo11,
Apr 9, 6:01am
The legislation side is well underway. I'd expect that government will eventually try to 'incentivise' people out of ICE vehicles by making them bloody expensive to keep on the road. I wouldn't worry bill, ev's just don't make the cut at present and won't for at least another ten years. You might have popped your clogs by then, cobber.
joanie32,
Apr 9, 6:11am
My daughter lives in Hamilton and could almost, possibly use an EV, but she couldn’t afford to buy one.
No one else I know could practically be able to switch over to anything other than an ICE vehicle
The rule makers, and vehicle manufacturers have a lot of progress to make to meet their target.
clark20,
Apr 9, 6:25am
As they should be, not worth it yet
harm_less,
Apr 9, 8:27am
To the contrary, we have now been taking advantage of the reduced running costs of our EV for almost 7 years. Probably saved us close to $20,000 in running costs so far, with an overall depreciation of $15,000 due to our early EV adoption.
clark20,
Apr 9, 5:31pm
Well my petrol dinosaur has gained $30,000 in the two years since I bought it, so no point in me comparing.
tygertung,
Apr 9, 6:08pm
I dare say that is a special case, as most will have diminished in value.
bill-robinson,
Apr 9, 6:35pm
just means he buys with a profit in mind not just looks or performsnce, but he may have all three.
bill-robinson,
Apr 9, 6:40pm
i wonder what will happen when all the fossil fueled things have gone by law and nothing changes toi the air we breathe, who do we sue for all the wasted tax money and costs as in this current society it is someone elses fault so they must be liable.
alowishes,
Apr 9, 6:49pm
So, in nine years no more ICE vehicles so (allegedly) no pollution.
What is the NZ govt doing about the rest of the world and it’s pollution belching vehicles?
voyager4,
Apr 9, 8:09pm
Also found out the registration is more expensive for non-fossil fuel vehicles. I guess when we all have these, the charging price will increase as well. Perhaps we should have solar panels on the roof of the car to charge the batteries, and only go out in the daylight. Land of the long white cloud, gee I hope not.
s_nz,
Apr 9, 8:28pm
1: there is zero change that NZ will ban all ice cars from 2030. UK is planning to ban non plug in hybrids (or EV's) from 2030, and go EV only from 2035. Generally NZ is a fairly slow mover, so basically no chance of moving faster than the UK.
2: Existing petrol & diesel vehicles will still be allowed to be used, it will take decades for these to be retired from the fleet. There is no proposal to scrap cars on mass.
3. EV's arn't emission free. Stuff like break & tire dust (both pretty nasty) will still be emitted in the environment.
4. The goal is not to eliminate all emissions, merely to reduce them to a level that keeps temperature increase compared to pre industrial levels well below 2 degrees.
5. Various NZ governments have signed international agreements (such as the Paris Agreement) for international co-operation on this issue. There are notable countries that Iran and Turkey that haven't signed, but this is little reason for the rest of the world to give up. Should note that NZ is projected to miss most of it's targets, and is planning to buy carbon credits, rather than reducing emissions. Quite a cop out in my view.
sr2,
Apr 9, 8:37pm
I've yet to see any plans in place to increase our electricity generation and reticulation systems to cover the massive increase needed for a move to EV's?
gazzat22,
Apr 9, 8:43pm
I can imagine the uproar and wails of horror from the EV apostles when and it is a" When" not an" If" this happens"
gazzat22,
Apr 9, 8:46pm
We will all need Solar Panels on our roofs and mass prayer meetings for 24 hour sunshine.That will put rents up! how many more generating Plants will we need, hydro or wind of course. How may new generating plants have been built in the last 12-20 years. The smelter will only be a drop in the Ocean.!
apollo11,
Apr 9, 9:08pm
Why would there be an 'uproar and wails of horror'? It's more likely that there will be wails of horror from owners of IC vehicles first, as the government seeks to 'encourage' the uptake of ev's and 'discourage' use of the alternative. I think it's mainly virtue signalling nonsense but that's how pollies think.
apollo11,
Apr 9, 9:10pm
And perhaps our government will eventually be toe-ing the World Economic Forum line, whose agenda is to force people into cities and make ownership of private vehicles prohibitively expensive.
Most EV owners including myself understand that the current temporary RUC exemption will come to an end.
But the system does need to be reworked. Currently the system would he the driver of a small electric car paying triple the road tax compared to the owner of a yaris hybrid. This does not incentive's the behavior we should be seeking as a country.
Of course it is an easy fix. Either ditch petrol tax and go to RUC's on all vehicles, or put a special EV RUC rate worked out to be the same as the most economical non plug in on the road.
The other issue is plug in hyrbids. Under current rules they would pay RUC's, but be able to claim back petrol tax. Fine, but would generate a massive amount of paperwork in a time where say 10% of vehicles are plug in hybrids.
gazzat22,
Apr 9, 9:49pm
A lot of Diesel vehicle owners could and would say the same if over that period of time they had not had to pay RUC,s.
gazzat22,
Apr 9, 10:00pm
Be Ok in the rain NOT,.
apollo11,
Apr 9, 10:24pm
That's OK, you are allowed to own more than one mode of transport.
bill-robinson,
Apr 9, 10:28pm
why not accept the REAL cause of the problem. see if you can work out what it is.
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