"Mopeds and motorcycles riders are required to ride with their headlamps on or, if fitted, daytime running lamps, during daylight hours. This requirement applies only to riders of mopeds or motorcycles manufactured after 1 January1980."
marte,
Dec 31, 1:57pm
Excellent. I couldn't find that info. By the sound of it, this law is specifically excluding cars from being allowed to use headlamps during the day ( except for reduced visibility, tunnels etc )
bill-robinson,
Dec 31, 6:08pm
where does that statement forbid the use of headlights during the day?
lakeview3,
Dec 31, 6:12pm
I have been driving with headlights on during the day for the last 30 years, especially when on the open road. Never been stopped yet.
I learnt about the common sense of this while visiting Sweden in 1989. Be safe be seen.
martin11,
Dec 31, 6:27pm
Rubbish it is not illegal to have headlight on during the day in NZ .
apollo11,
Dec 31, 6:31pm
I did read somewhere that it's because they want the lights from motorcycles to stand out amongst the cars, during the day. If everyone is lit up then bikes will merge into the traffic mass again I guess.
lakeview3,
Dec 31, 6:46pm
the problem with motorbikes is they can weave around and suddenly creep up on people or they may be several cars back, you haven’t yet spotted them in your rear vision mirror due to the size of the vehicles behind you and then they suddenly zip out and pass you.
Or they can do this when they are oncoming as well. I had one guy do this oncoming to me on a 50 km road, he zipped down the median strip in the centre of the road and I thought what the heck what sort of idiot rides like that, then 10 minutes later after I got home I heard sirens and some motorcyclist had been killed further on from where I had seen the motorcyclist (I read later) always wondered if it was the same person and while it is a tragedy, I wouldn’t have been surprised at all.
lakeview3,
Dec 31, 6:49pm
I do think with regards to driver training, we should all have to resit our license every 10 years and then as we age, closer intervals. And not just the written but practical as well. I bet there are a lot of people who wouldn’t pass.
mrfxit,
Dec 31, 7:45pm
Totally agree with the failed test for minor fault issues problem. You have paid for the test, so if it's only a minor issue, why not give them the test anyway & call it a practice test. I suspect the answer is "public liability" in case of an accident, driving instructor allowed the driver to do a test circuit in a "faulty" vehicle.
mrfxit,
Dec 31, 7:50pm
Working in a car sales yard was brilliant for coping with driving different vehicles. Gravel roads were brilliant for traction education. Taught me how to slide & more importantly, how to relax on gravel road works hit at speed.
Had a few cases late at night when suddenly coming across road works patches at highway speeds
marte,
Dec 31, 8:59pm
Quote {When to use headlights You must turn on your vehicle’s headlights: from 30 minutes after sunset on one day, until 30 minutes before sunrise on the next day} Your headlights must be turned off, to be able to turn them on, at the correct time. And it then mentions a turn off time at the ending of the 'turn on period'. Also mentions elsewhere rules for 'daytime driving lamps' ' and 'position lamps' which are specifically for use during the daytime.
bill-robinson,
Dec 31, 9:33pm
that tells you when you MUST turn on an off but it does not say anything about lights on during daylight does it.
tweake,
Dec 31, 10:29pm
relax being the key word. so many times people overreact and make themselves crash. gravel roads on the outskirts of auckland, always getting people doing 30kmh sitting in the middle of the road cause they are so damn shit scared of "sliding into the ditch".
msigg,
Dec 31, 11:32pm
If you want your headlights on during the day, all good, the older volvo had the lights on perminant.they r the number 1 for safety. Each to their own
mechnificent,
Dec 31, 11:45pm
Lots of crashes are caused by people freezing up and not steering around things Tweake. on or off the gravel. Especially true of old guys getting onto bikes later in life.
When I got my sons bikes, the first thing I taught them was how to brake and slide and how to lay the bike down if and when it was the best option. You should have heard the criticism for teaching them how to "fall off". safely.
bill-robinson,
Jan 1, 12:03am
same with ABS in cars.people think they will stop quicker when the opposite is what happens. ABS gives you the ability to steer with the brakes hard on
azzab54,
Jan 1, 12:13am
At work we have our own in house driving inspector,new employees have their driving accessed,if they are not up to standard they dont get a job,easy. So far, so safe. One thing i have noticed is the lack of visual awareness,people are not looking far enough ahead and not using their mirrors.
tweake,
Jan 1, 12:15am
your always going to come off a bike at some point. might as well learn to crash.
tamarillo,
Jan 1, 12:21am
So also add retests, all us older drivers need to re sit every 10 years. Our cost as driving is privilege not a right. Much more basic training to get licence in first place. Discounts for advanced driver training. None of this is untried rocket science. Politicians worry it’s vote losing as nanny state but if you also change the way we are enforced to encourage us to move swiftly and safely they can counter that.
tweake,
Jan 1, 12:22am
yes and no on that. yes no abs can stop quicker, but in emergency braking you only have one shot, there is no time to get off/on the brakes again. if it locks up first time, your screwed. plus they have found that most people that do not have abs tend not to hit the brakes hard enough in the first place. the odds of you hitting the brakes hard enough to out stop an abs equipped car and not lock them up is very slim.
2nd problem is if people have the mind set of "steer around the problem" they tend to swerve off the road or head on into someone.
mechnificent,
Jan 1, 12:24am
Yeah, but it's better to have a plan and avoid things and get off and away from your bike if there's going to be an impact. But I got heaps of lectures for teaching them to know not to panic and do a controlled dismount. But it's saved them so many times now.
What you were saying people freeze, in cars and bikes. and crash straight into things. and get badly hurt.
franc123,
Jan 1, 12:24am
This is true, and add to the fact that most of the population cant be bothered/don't care about driving conscientiously anyway. Just about everything we do in this country involves minimal effort and meeting minimum standards.
mechnificent,
Jan 1, 12:26am
And swerving off the road. given the number of people in the middle of our gravel road. is a very good idea !
carkitter,
Jan 1, 12:26am
Agreed.
mechnificent,
Jan 1, 12:27am
People panic, they freeze, they lock the brakes, they don't let them off, they don't or can't swerve. Idiots that should be taught to ride then drive I reckon.
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