When and who will stop the Lunatics

intrade, Nov 25, 11:36am

poppy62, Nov 25, 12:56pm
I've always been of the opinion that the EV mode in PHEV vehicles should be used like a "City" car. Using it any other way is not what it was ultimately designed to do. It was intended that it's use would keep emissions down in City areas.

tamarillo, Nov 25, 1:18pm
The old how far per jug of gas or how much pollution per mile travelled doesn’t work anymore. Many hybrid now run pure electric for short distances and some folk might not use any petrol on weekdays commute, others will. Meaningless figures.

tony9, Nov 25, 4:16pm
Hardly surprising they found that emissions are up if the ICE is propelling the car along AND charging the battery.

marte, Nov 25, 7:05pm
Would there be a system where it charges the battery using just the regenerative charging, only while braking & slowing down?

brouser3, Nov 25, 8:08pm
I suspect there is a greater motive to making NZ's fleet E - and its not the enviroment. In this time of ecconomics with the NZ sanctioning the Reserve Bank to print billions of $'s the Govt has to ensure that a much of that money as possible stays within the internal NZ ecconomy. That means minimising spending money overseas whether it be via travel, imported goods, currency trading, and the biggie - importing fuel. What is the easiest way to minimise the need to import fuel - ensure petrol/diesel vehicles and fossil fuel power generation are made obsolete by encouraging the use of E-cars, busses, bicycles which all use a resource that is produced by wind, sun or water.

serf407, Nov 25, 10:26pm
The move to "e" cycles, cars, buses and trains in NZ is also about meeting the climate/ emissions target agreements NZ has signed up to. There are fines if NZ does not meet the targets.
In the article in #1 - if you look at the vehicles studied, Mitsi outlander, Volvo Xc60 and BMw X5 can hardly be described as at the cutting edge of electric vehicles or representative of future potential technology. The manufacturers already have tech/ vehicles in the pipeline to replace these.

Look at the background T & E chief's background. was the report's conclusions written before the vehicles were studied?
"Hailing from Latvia, Chief studied European politics and French at Goldsmiths, University of London, and has recently obtained the MSc in energy engineering programme at Heriot-Watt University in Edinburgh, specialising in batteries and fuel cells.
Chief joined T&E in June 2015 and now leads the clean vehicles programme that is responsible for all cars related work. This includes policy and projects on car emissions and e-mobility, such as work on sustainable batteries and infrastructure for electric vehicles. She previously worked for the Mayor of London and in the European Parliament. During her four years in the parliament, she was head of office and advisor to Fiona Hall MEP, and followed EU legislation on renewables, energy efficiency and sustainable transport in the industry, research and energy committee."

Chief does not appear to have a deep background in chemistry, automotive engineering, to question whether it is feasible to develop in the short term fossil fuel/ or alternative fuel plug in electric vehicles that could be vastly improved on the phev models studied.

i.e use induction charging 'electric' roads approaching and inside zero emission areas, so the fossil fuel phevs do not need to charge their batteries (and have the high emissions) approaching zero emissions areas.
https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1126085_in-road-wireless-charging-project-breaks-ground-in-sweden

What type of range does a years old(and battery) gen1 nissan Leaf get inside the Arctic Circle in Northern Sweden in the middle of winter?

intrade, Nov 26, 8:51am
There is one thing i did read that makes absolute sense to explore as we know it works already in rotarua etc.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/24/new-zealand-geologists-plan-to-harness-volcano-heat-to-reduce-climate-emissions

intrade, Nov 26, 8:56am
# 7 in road charging when my phone wont charge and heats up like hell if it does charge and if not 100% perfect on wireless charger pad positioned correctly
one only needs to think for 5 cent to realize that also will never ever work .
only way that will work with losses is a park position pad .
The park position pad will a movable platform and a camara to detect what car is parked to move in to correct distance for wireles s charge . Then comes the question what loads can wireless charge, without causing massive fields of 6 meter diameter EMF or larger. problems over problems. if you have a wireless charge phone you will already know of most of these.
but then again 5 cent was abolished as it was worthless.
if 5 cent is worthlesss then so is 2 x5 cents and so is a trillion of them= money is realistically worless just like most of them !di0T1ç ideas

john1623, Oct 19, 2:49am
Have not seen much feedback about the lady with the $14000 Leaf that was quoted $120,000 for a new battery or $15000 for a second hand one. It even hit the headlines on You Tube in USA. They were having a good laugh about little old NZ.