Ardern rules out exemption for utes

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alowishes, Jun 22, 2:54am
Haha, you got a chuckle out of me with that!

alowishes, Jun 22, 2:56am
Don’t give this lefty government any more stupid ideas!

houseofdad, Jun 22, 3:33am
The proof in the pudding, ev owners have lower total running costs. EV owners know this. Better than average performance. To spin it in any shape or form equates usually to some old fossil wanting to keep hold of fossil fuel.

alowishes, Jun 22, 3:55am
Portability of power source is something they don’t have yet.

You can’t trot up to a flat EV with four litres of electricity that you had for the lawn mower eh!

houseofdad, Jun 22, 7:01pm
Yes that is true and a problem. See they have developed a "swap a battery"
system, one I seen on a YouTube video was on a supercar. When battery technology gets even better this system could be developed.

EV's a good if you pick a long-range model and are not the type to forget to charge up the battery at night.

tygertung, Jun 22, 7:10pm
Eh? Boats are powered by the wind using sails.

chiz, Jun 22, 8:05pm
Thats not going to be effective for the Coastguard

tegretol, Jun 22, 8:17pm
Apparently the issue is that the various manufacturers can't agree on battery specs (physical dimensions, connector types, battery contents) and there are currently three different standards. So your battery-powered AA van will need to carry at least six banks of batteries (two required per vehicle).

tygertung, Jun 22, 9:04pm
Perhaps not, but it is going to be effective for recreational sailors.

houseofdad, Jun 22, 10:48pm
That old chestnut of incompatibility.

Guess the AA man has to carry three different types of fuel though at present.

alowishes, Jun 22, 11:51pm
And container ships?

tygertung, Jun 23, 12:22am
Container ships are not for leisure purposes, and not going to replaced with batteries any time soon.

alowishes, Jun 23, 2:20am
Leisure purposes or not they are still belching out massive amounts of pollution.

And ‘less pollution more EV’ types are happy to ignore that.

kateley, Jun 23, 2:34am
I think all the electric vehicles will have to come here on the container ships

tygertung, Jun 23, 3:00am
Can you think of a more efficient way to transport good? I can't, so stop complaining about container ships.

mauser308, Jul 20, 2:10pm
You need to do some research on this, in NZ no they cannot currently. Cells that haven't failed inside a useless pack may be able to be recovered, the rest go to landfill. Of the components, only nickel and cobalt are currently recoverable anyway, the rest is ditched. Even Energizer who claim to recycle batteries is achieving less than 4% recycling and that's with standard batteries.

If the pack has a cell that fails destructively and leads to the entire pack burning out, that results in the release of hydrofluric acid and a heap of other really lovely environmentally enhancing toxic compounds. Awesome, where do we sign up?