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franc123,
May 23, 2:38am
ve. Dear dear dear, one wonders whether this was a one off dud or a more widespread issue with modern paint durability? Ive heard of late VW's having the same issue. I think this upselling of additional paint protection systems also has to stop if it could be proven to be a factor. I've never liked the idea, and dealerships selling it should be making it absolutely clear (!) what effect this may have on factory warranty status. DT made the right call.
Toyota had this problem years ago in the late 80's clean coat failure .
cjohnw,
May 23, 2:59am
Well it is six years from new so the car is at “end of live”.
franc123,
May 23, 3:47am
Sorry but this is from a company desperate to prove to potential customers their quality is as good as the Japanese assembled car brands and has made specific TV advertising statements about the technology and quality of their paint processes in the past. If its going to have the durability of tractor enamel applied with a broom then maybe thats what they should revert to. Also if its so good then why would it need additional protection?
bumfacingdown,
May 23, 4:38am
Should have had a winky or smiley icon
cjohnw,
May 23, 5:54am
Yup. Should have.
gazzat22,
May 23, 6:03am
It was actually in the early 80,s and was a "Scab rust" problem caused by the protective coating on the cars mainly Corollas not being properly removed.A good friend had this problem,had a battle with Toyota who eventually replaced the vehicle. They had a 1982 Corolla which rusted in some very unusual areas.
kiwilandchch,
May 23, 6:37am
Nothing made these days is made to last . everything is made of cheap crap and we are charged a arm and a leg for it. Will the cars of today ever become classics no because they wont last long enough to become classic . they are made of crap end of story
alowishes,
May 23, 6:42am
Probably the same was said 20 - 40 years ago about cars then.
cjohnw,
May 23, 7:13am
[quote=kiwilandchch) Will the cars of today ever become classics no[/quote]
Where can I get one of those crystal balls? Could use it to win Lotto.
gunhand,
May 23, 7:50am
Will todays cars become classics? No because they are made of crap, end of story. Hmmmm, so what that kinda implies that the so called classics of today i:e older Falcons, Holdens, 60s & 70s yank muscle cars etc are still in original form as they weren't crap? Well if thats so its bullshit. All those (bar very very few) cars have been rebuilt many times due to rust worn out parts and worn motors well before any modern equivalent would need rebuilding. Those old cars were rusting and leaking from day one basically. As for other things, its just not viable to repair, say a fridge freezer, these days as you can just go buy a new one for bugger all. Same with TVs etc. Ive got two modernish cars over 200k and still running as good as gold with just basic maintenance, nothing inside them is worn out or broken, not like old dungers where you were replacing CVs and ball joints every second WOF. I think some people have short memories of so called classics. Took ages warming up on a cold day, heaters that hardly worked, push starting for various reasons, linkages getting stuck and so on. Whats the odds of being stranded on a long trip these days in a modern car? bloody hell a trip out of town was a gamble back then. And even these so called restored classics with tens of thousands tossed at them still break down on a trip.
gblack,
May 23, 7:12pm
They had also done 170,000km which seems like a lot over 6 years. That has to be more than a usual commute surely, and more like a work vehicle.
trogedon,
May 23, 7:27pm
That's not totally true ; my dad's VW Beetle (which I now have) that he had for 38 (thirty eight) years was totally reliable (apart from a conrod breaking).
kazbanz,
May 23, 9:46pm
My memory of it is a bit different -Not saying my memory is right. Back then Toyota cars were built in the Thames Toyota plant. That entire plant is down on the flood plains by the Kauranga river. Along two sides of the back area was/is river or creek. Body panels in bulk would arrive and get put on huge storage racks out in the yard. Go figure they were exposed to rain as well as salt spray when it was high tide and the wind was up.
kazbanz,
May 23, 9:49pm
This case does set a precedent.
rovercitroen,
May 23, 10:11pm
I know someone with a a couple of year old Honda Civic who is disappointed with the paint quality. Chips very easily especially around the nose on open road trips.
pauldw,
May 23, 10:19pm
I thought the steel was cleaned well enough but then got touched with bare hands.
franc123,
May 23, 10:22pm
Gazzas story above is correct. The problem was put down to the protective coating put on the panels prior to despatch from Japan that was not being removed properly in the assembly plant reacting with the undercoats. The cars were literally rusting to pieces in front of the owners eyes, panels rotted right through in 2 years. Toyota initially claimed it was 'a faulty batch' but it became apparent pretty quick once the story got out it was more widespread than that. Phillip Alpers and the Fair go team had to go into bat against Toyota for the car owners and the case turned into the highest value compensation claim in the shows history, the biggest upside being that Toyota really got their act together and the late 80s models onwards were probably the least likely Jap cars assembled here to suffer from rust.
tygertung,
May 23, 10:23pm
What other maintainance was required? Valve grinds, dizzy caps, dizzy rotors, spark plugs, suspension components? the list could go on.
gazzat22,
May 24, 8:49am
Thanks Franc for refreshing my memory particularly about Fair Go,s part in it.It doesnt look like Hyundai will be as forthright as Toyota eventually was.
marte,
Aug 4, 11:47pm
A co-worker had a Toyota corolla & dinted it slightly while changing a wheel, the paint popped back out ok except for a slight crack. A short while later while driving, the crack must have caught air & it inflated the hollow behind the paint & a 8 inch dia flake of paint flew off. They ( the panelbeaters ) already knew that something was up with the paint on them by then, so he sold it soon afterwards. Bought a new Telstar instead.
They had to replace the Telstars whole engine soon after he got it, something about incompatible rings/ engine bore. Otherwise it was a excellent car.
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