Been recently keeping my eye open to purchase a 2nd hand diesel manual twin cab ute sort of bog standard Hi-lux or similar. Yesterday I spied a 2007 hi lux on a dealers lot. it looked like to be in very nice physical condition, but it had 450,000 Kms on the clock. As a general question am I "asking for trouble" / future problems with a 14 year old / 450,000 km diesel ute ? .I know nothing of it life / service history etc etc. I would like a new one or a pretty recent model, but I can not justify the sort of money that they command.
dlin9,
Jan 25, 11:30pm
Completely depends on how it has been looked after. There's no reason why you won't get a good run out of it if it's in good condition & the maintenance has been kept up. The upside to high KM cars is often a lot of the work has been completed already
Best advise I can give is go over it thoroughly & if it all looks good then it wouldn't put me off if the price is right. An 07 hilux is a solid truck but like anything they do have some common issues that need to be kept on top of
onl_148,
Jan 26, 12:23am
yes my line of thinking also. it would be worth having a look at its service history. if it has had every schedulled service done by a Toyota workshop / dealer that would be a good start. The Hi-lux is not on the lot of the local Toyota outfit, so a pre-purchase inspection by the local toyota workshop / dealer could also be worth while even if it costs a "few bob" What at this stage I do not know is what is the sort of "normal / expected" problems with a 450,000 / 14 year old diesel engine / transmission etc ?
franc123,
Jan 26, 12:29am
Yes that is the best course of action at this point. The whole thing needs a good going over by someone who knows what exactly to look for. If it drives smoothly and quietly (well as well as utes do) and theres obvious evidence of complete servicing/clean fluid etc and its a reasonable price then it's most likely a good deal.
s_nz,
Jan 26, 12:42am
I personally have never owned such a high mileage vehicle, but my understanding is that such mileages are not uncommon in places like aussie, as long as you keep maintaining and fixing bits that break, it will keep going.
Could well require an engine rebuild, suspension replacement or similar during your ownership.
tygertung,
Jan 26, 12:47am
OK, it is at 450k now, and maybe it is still running fine, but will it still be fine in another 200k? or even 100k? There are a lot of moving parts in a vehicle, and they do wear out.
onl_148,
Jan 26, 12:53am
"Could well require an engine rebuild, suspension replacement or similar during your ownership."
Yes it is exactly those sort of "big ticket" items potentially lurking in the future that gives me the most reason to be cautious !
mrfxit,
Jan 26, 1:39am
Half mil km's on a good diesel is not normally a problem Bit like 200K on a petrol engine isn't normally an issue
tygertung,
Jan 26, 2:59am
Yes, but for how much longer will it remain not a problem?
s_nz,
Jan 26, 3:05am
The counterpoint of the last sentence is this class of vehicles has crazy low deprecation currently.
This is one class of vehicles where if one has access to the funds, that buying new can lead to lower cost of ownership. Brand new consumables (i.e. tires) on a new car, and a warranty means that you will be shelling out less than a well used one to keep it on the road.
curlcrown,
Jan 26, 3:30am
You could say that about any vehicle at any mileage.
franc123,
Jan 26, 3:43am
It doesnt just stop with that. The whole Wheels on the Bus scenario applies. Big kms all mean wear on moving parts, driveline bearings and universals/couplings, CV's engine accessories,(belt tensioner, alternators, power steer pumps, water pump aircon) injectors are an expensive fix on modern diesels if they need doing, steering racks and column, brake and clutch hydraulics, wiper motor and linkage, even door lock motors. It's why your PPI needs to focus on how much unused life it's likely to have.
wind.turbine,
Jan 26, 6:30am
some of the most unreliable and expensive vehicles inc utes have been those of low km. if its gotten to those high km then you can count your bets that its likely had a good honest owner that has looked after it.
Take my Triton for example, 300k and its been serviced on time all its life inc other fluids not just the engine oil. fuel filter has always been changed every 20k and every time its changed even now they look as clean as the day it went in so also comes down to making sure you are getting clean fuel into the tank.
its only ever had 2 hanger bearings done, the MAP sensor and EGR valve just due to the known soot issue with those engines and thats it! its even only ever had brake pads changed 3 times in its life, so it also comes down to how its treated driving wise.
I could not see why I cant get 4-500k out of her yet!
john1623,
Jan 26, 6:39am
How long is a piece of string?
tygertung,
Jan 26, 7:07pm
Sure, but when she is at 450k, would you expect another 300k? She would be at 750k by then.
gamefisher,
Jan 27, 7:03am
Depends on the purchase price.
familiadude1,
Sep 22, 8:46pm
Depending on the price could be a go. Saw a d21 diesel terrano for sale not long ago with 621,000km on it still running strong and body wise looked better than some lower mileage ones
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