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nesta129, Oct 13, 9:09am
Hey there
Correct me if Im wrong but with cvt transmissions (as I was told),on the shifter it shows D2L whereas on a normal 4 or 5 speed automatic gearbox its D21. is that right?
Im just looking at a car thats listed as having a 4speed slush box but the shifter shows D2L.Its a toyota allex 1.8L 2001,btw.
franc123, Oct 13, 9:46am
1 and L are used interchangeably, L was commonly used by Toyota to represent 1, it simply stands for Low. I don't believe any of the Corolla/Runx/Allex family of that era were ever fitted with CVT's.
nesta129, Oct 13, 9:58am
oh thanks for that man,learn something new everyday:)
buyit59, Oct 13, 9:00pm
Most of the Toyota's cvt that I have seen show D-S-B .
I am no longer as scared of cvt as I was - I have done 80,000km ( car has done 130km now) in mine and it gets used for a paper round so lots of 10kmh to 80kmh and so on . Has performed perfectly and certainly more economical than prev Corolla's ( both 1.8 and 1.5 . both still in the family and done over 200km with no issues either) .
kazbanz, Oct 13, 11:08pm
it would be very VERY unusual for a Toyota Allex to have a CVT transmission so you are reasonably safe in assuming it is a normal auto.
As a double check I would take a look at the transmission dipstick. if it says on the cap/handle " ATF " then there can be no question its a normal Auto. if it says CVT (unlikely) Then its one of those extremely rare beasts.
kazbanz, Oct 13, 11:11pm
Mate in my experience "never say never" is good practise. I had an 06 runx with flappy paddle CVT a few years back. Surprised the heck outa me.
nesta129, Oct 14, 7:52am
thanks guys.It was a car selling on fb so I was confused as most runx/allex I have seen have the 1.3 or 1.5 litre engine and the 1.8ltre have all been manual.
The one for sale has a 1.8l with 4speed auto with tiptronic on the steering wheel.Guess it still must be a thirsty car with that 4 speeder.
buyit59, Oct 14, 8:21am
My Corolla GL 1.8 with normal trans got 28/32mpg on the paper round , the 1.5 same trans gets 30/32mpg and the 1.5 with CVT gets 38/42mpg.
franc123, Oct 14, 8:28am
Ok but a 2001? Surely not?
tgray, Oct 14, 7:30pm
Most cars of that era were 4 speed auto's.
andy61, Oct 14, 8:07pm
I had a 2001 1.8 Fielder wagon in auto (same as a 1.8 Runx except its a wagon instead of a hatchback), it was an incredibly economical car on fuel (in old day terms - around 38+MPG and better at times), so I wouldn`t say its a thirsty car! It was way more economical than the 1 litre Vitz it replaced( it was down around 28MPG as you had to drive it so hard to keep up with the traffic flow).
tgray, Oct 14, 8:49pm
I presume you mean motorway speed traffic flow?
I found the 1L 4 cylinder engine to be very peppy around town.
kazbanz, Oct 14, 10:35pm
You are getting confused. -Runx Allex are 1.5 or 1.8 VVTi .
If its got that flappy paddle set up then definitely just double check the transmission dipstick to be 100% sure.
Incidently that suggests its the "sporty" model. --darn good car as a rule.
I would never call a runx/allex/corolla thirsty but they aren't the juice sippers the Vitz, fit etc are because they are a mid size vehicle.
My number 2 son has an Alex, Mum N dad have the Feilder (wagon version) parents are really happy with the economy Son not so much but in fairness that's because his fuel is no longer funded by the bank of dad
kazbanz, Oct 14, 10:39pm
I wouldn't have thought so but I just never say never.
-Like the 1800cc manual skyline I traded in once. yep 1800cc. -turns out the japs produced a few thousand of them as driving school cars in Japan.
Or the 1500cc cvt Funcargo or. I'm not saying that you aren't right. Just that I've been caught out in the past by unusual stuff.
nesta129, Oct 15, 4:55am
was that skyline a gte? I remember someone saying they even a SOHC skyline that was the most basic of R32 skylines.
kazbanz, Oct 15, 8:26am
nope it was a strange beast with a 1800 cc front wheel drive in it
franc123, Oct 15, 8:45am
Yes I've seen one of those. It was a R32 Skyline and I was staggered to find after lifting the bonnet it had the old belt drive CA18DE engine in it that was more familiarly found in the likes of a U12 Bluebird SSS or similar. The chassis plate confirmed it was legit.

🎵 I wasn't expecting that.
franc123, Oct 15, 8:58am
Our 997cc auto Vitz has never delivered worse than 7L/100km and it's used exclusively in urban conditions. It only struggles a bit on steepish hills. Once warmed up it is usually in 4th gear by 55-60 km/h in light load situations and is quite happy to stay there. I could see that it would have to be given a good prod say on a motorway on ramp to get up to speed quickly but the rest of the time it copes quite well for what it is.
kazbanz, Oct 15, 8:23pm
yea a bit of a shocker aye ?
franc123, Oct 15, 8:36pm
In the extreme I cant recall the actual age of the car but I think it was a later R32, maybe around 93ish. I did think that perhaps somehow there could have been a surplus of CA engines when the U12 Bluebird went to U13 (and thus to the SR) and the Skyline being RWD was a relatively easy car to fit it into in order to get rid of them. All those cars ran Nissans long running and little changed ECCS engine management system. It seems an unusual car to supply to a driving school, but then again I came across a Merc 190E Jap import that had been used for that purpose in its past life.
kazbanz, Oct 15, 8:48pm
I THINK I,ve seen Impreza's as driving school cars recently, Ive had Tiida Latio manuals,Mazda axella sedans. Nissan Sunny's, Diesel Nissan laurel manual. Mitsubishi lancer. so some weird and wonderfull stuff was used.
tgray, Oct 16, 12:34am
I used to say to myself, if ever I buy a 1000cc car, make sure it's a four cylinder and not three.
Of course now you have 1000cc Fiesta's and Balenos that are three cylinders but Turbo charged. Best of both worlds - amazing fuel economy and the performance equivalent of about a 2000cc car.
franc123, Nov 6, 10:53pm
Yes the capabilities of them are surprising. Fords EcoBoost did shake things up a bit in that market.