Speed limiting

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phalanax, Sep 13, 6:09am
Some cars already have limiters.alot of trucks do.under a previously proposed user pays expessways proposal lasers and plate id
checkpoints would have been able to not only charge for the cost of using the expressway but also ticket speeders based on point a to b travel times.big brother really will be watching you.oneday.heck they really are today anyways its just the present technology hasnt been fully converted into doing so publicly.lol
weaver2010, Sep 13, 6:13am
You mean bring back making Cars in New Zealand!Our fleet are imported from cars with better roads that allow higher speedlimits.

Reducing the power wont stop accidents driver education does but the way that the education is done brainwashes people to think speed kills and also that because they can drive fast on a racetrack they are the better drivers.
Courtesy giving some space to other road users is the key and sadly thats a long way off for manys thinking.
andydlm, Sep 13, 6:16am
Then how would the police get their revenue!
Also with no speeding then they would need to lay off a shit load of cops.
It would leave a huge hole in the economy.
Such as if they completly eradicated drugs and crime in NZ our economy would colapse.
smac, Sep 13, 6:19am
Geez you guys are defensive/insecure.the OP just asked for some thoughts, which most seem incapable of giving without unleashing the abuse at the same time.

As above, I don't see the benefits of it ever outweighing the costs.

However jezz43, if you're looking for a business opportunity along that line, market a "tell tale" GPS unit that will log and/or report to home base whenever your teenager goes over the limit in your car, parents will lap it up. These are already on the market however do not have knowledge of local speed limits on specific roads. Sort that bit out and you're in the money.At the moment you'd be limited to say setting the report limit at 55 if you know they're not leaving town, or 105 if you know they are (or whatever you seem 'acceptable').
scoobeey, Sep 13, 6:25am
Damb stupid idea.Passing lane ,car passing another must do 115 maybe 120 to avoid head on with truck!
weaver2010, Sep 13, 6:30am
Really!Maybe you dont need to overtake then!Or maybe your not looking far enough ahead!

Then again seeing how it is ok for some I wanna go faster than you to overtake on a solid yellow line just to get in front of the next vehicle then that comment does not surprise me.
scoobeey, Sep 13, 6:36am
Or maybe car is SPEEDING UPallowing you not to pass!
weaver2010, Sep 13, 6:39am
Cruise control is what the OP is suggesting one that adapts to the speedlimits as you pass them.However the OP wants to go one step further and make that mandatory which is where it falls over.

As a driver you need to be in control(laughs at the mantrol advert) that includes being able to control the right foot!Already you have the left foot made redundant with Automatic gearboxes.
The danger is drivers will not have that extra bit of speed that will be needed to get out of trouble which is just as common as needing to slow down at 50kph that is more common that you would like to acknowledge.
thejazzpianoma, Sep 13, 6:40am
I actually did the math on this in a thread quite some time ago. Bottom line is you are quite right, when you actually take into account all the figures (like typical lengths of NZ passing lanes) and safe driving practices just getting one car through using a whole passing lane is hard enough let alone taking into account the other car that need to pass or idiots who speed up on passing lanes.

In terms of preventing people getting angry and passing on double yellow lines having people pass on the passing lanes at say up to 120km/h will go a long way to stopping frustrated drivers doing silly things.
weaver2010, Sep 13, 6:40am
Then that comes down to the bit about COURTESY!

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scoobeey, Sep 13, 6:46am
YES which is lacking.How many times have we been fuming behind a driver doing 85 and braking heavy on corners to come up to a passing lane and muppett does 105
thejazzpianoma, Sep 13, 6:46am
Why does society and government keep implementing silly ideas that just impinge on peoples freedoms, enjoyment and efficient travel instead of just putting the effort into some proper safety solutions. If its going to cost money admit it and stop wasting the money we have on the propaganda machine and silly tickets.

Incidentally these stupid zero tolerance laws are also completely at odds with fuel efficient driving practices.
weaver2010, Sep 13, 6:46am
Actually the locations I have seen these dumb manauvers done were at the end of two passing lanes and the others involved leaving an overtaking manuver to late resulting in overtaking on solid yellows!
Both relate to not backing off when the time and situation required them to do so.
Raising the speedlimit to 120kph on overtaking lanes will be more dangerous due to people will see that as 120kph in the passing lane and push the limit further again resulting in Late lane returning and yes probably crossing solid no overtaking lines!
curlcrown, Sep 13, 8:51am
On rare ocasions exceeding the speed limit is nececary.
crzyhrse, Sep 13, 8:54am
I'd be keen to follow the OP for a day in her car, with a camera to show what a terrible driver she is, all within the speed limit.
dr.doolittle, Sep 13, 9:12am
Why not just make it law that everyone has to drive around in REVERSE.
That way we'd all have to concentrate more & there'd be no crashes, right!
lordv81, Sep 13, 9:35am
OP-what about the idea of making rims slightly oblong so they are not capable of exceeding 100kmh!or ban wheel balancing.People will also drive slower if the bonnet is not latched down properly as well,also ban cars that have more than 3 gears and put low ratio diffs in cars.Cost more in gas which would bring in more tax for the govt to spend on TV campaigns to scare the nannas out there.
reav3r, Sep 13, 9:40am
I don't think you understand the complexities of even creating this system. The cost would FAR out way any benefit.
jezz43, Sep 13, 10:04am
i dont think anyone understands what im saying, i asked for an opinion on whether or not something like this would be viable, i didnt ask for your excuses as to why you need to speed, nor did i ask if you thought it was a good idea or bad, i asked if it can be done and whether or not it was worth it. more to the point i was thinking that something like this be implemented for YOUNG drivers. i would bet most of you here are sick of boyracers hooning around, and im sure you would change your tune if someone you knew was injured in a speed related accident involving a young person.
slarty45, Sep 13, 10:07am
Revenue collected at the end of passing lanes would drop to nil.
rug_nz, Sep 13, 10:16am
FormulaE Kart racing have a system on their electric karts where they can control the top speed at the push of a button, they can slow any number of Karts or all and speed them up again at will.
Putting a system into a car would cause more accidents, many times I have had to avoid an accident by putting my foot down at an intersection and even on the motorway. Had I hit the brakes or not been able to move fast, fast. I would have been smashed.
Trucks have speed limiters now, I get passed by trucks all the time and I doing 105.
whynot7, Sep 13, 10:19am
boy racers would be better of learning to drive before they try to show everyone they think they can.
speed limiting them to 105k will not fix it . alot of it has to do with the ability of the car far exceeding that of the driver .
reav3r, Sep 13, 10:20am
There is a dollar value for a human life and the amount collected from speeding is always going to profit over that value. Profit always prevails
smac, Sep 13, 11:37am
ummm.no. I think you are either grossly over estimating the actual 'profit' for the Govt from speeding, or underestimating the economic value placed on human life. Time for some reading.
bashfulbro, Sep 13, 12:45pm
speed,like most traffic offences,arenot really the danger, the police and government lead us to believe, it is more, a constant and very necessary source of revenue,
Imagine if nobody at all exceeded the limits.the Government could not operate.