The Government have finally going to raise the limit to 80. But I still get passed at white vans doing 90.
weaver2010,
Oct 2, 6:15am
Except on the M25 where reaching even the urban speedlimit of 30mph is a struggle.
weaver2010,
Oct 2, 6:17am
Oh hang on a minute I can snse that posts demanding 120kph on NZ Highways will be along soon!Of course coming from those with no experinace of driving outsiide of little ole NZ.
crzyhrse,
Oct 2, 8:19am
80mph! People will die! Speed kills! I know because the gubbermint told me so.
socram,
Oct 2, 8:38am
Bearing in mind that even the slowest vehicles on the UK motorways are normally doing 65mph anyway and the accident rate on the UK motorways is one of the lowest in the world, good move.The motorway cops don't pull you over for doing 80mph anyway, as they already know it isn't unsafe. However, the traffic there does obey the road works speed restrictions - probably because they often have cameras around the signs!
The M25 isn't always a massive car park. In many trips around parts of it (especially Heathrow to the M1), I have only been slowed a few times.
thejazzpianoma,
Oct 2, 8:52am
I seem to remember the Accident stats for the U.K being indepentantly reviewed a while back. They were blaming something like 25% of accidents on excessive speed and when reviewed it went down to 5%.
Makes you wonder what would happen if we had a review here.
In fairness though we do have many roads that are not even safe at their 100km/h speed limit. However there is no reason why we can't go faster on some of our better multi lane highways. There is also no excuse for us not to maintain our roads to a suitable standard.
thejazzpianoma,
Oct 2, 8:53am
Got to love those videos on youtube of white vans doing 200km/h on the Autobahns etc.
ringo2,
Oct 2, 9:28am
"There is also no excuse for us not to maintain our roads to a suitable standard." Be honest jazz our population is too small to pay for all roads to be to the overseas standards. Having driven in the UK, Europe, the USA and Scandanavia I will agree with you regarding the high speed motorways/freeways/autobahns BUT they do not have traffic coming towards you at the same speed. And when they do have accidents they are horrendous.
thejazzpianoma,
Oct 2, 9:34am
The thing is though we are not even trying to maintain our busiest roads. Have a drive of the very busy Tauranga to Katikati highway and see for yourself. Its not like there is a lack of fuel being burnt on that road with its proportional tax available or a lack of tax paying residents commuting to support it.
Hang most would even support an alternative being built with a toll booth.
I acknowledged that not all our roads would be to standard or should be for speeds over 100km/h but we do have plenty of well built motorways with traffic separated by bollards that still have disproportionately slow speed limits.
Even stupider, some of our motorways in Tauranga have an 80km/h limit not because of the quality of the road but because of a legal/beurocratic reason that would mean they would need to be re-classified to another roading body if the limit were raised to 100. Surprise surprise this does not of course stop the Police sitting there pinging people for doing 85.
I am all for keeping our lesser used roads at 100 but I detest our state highways being reduced to 90 because of a lack of maintenance and further think some motorways could be quicker.
richardmayes,
Oct 2, 10:14am
So. jazz. how much more petrol tax would you like to pay towards better roads!
20c / litre!
50c / litre!
$1.00 / litre!
We can build anything you like, if you pay for it.
msigg,
Oct 2, 10:18am
More gas, more overseas funds, more idiots. relax and enjoy the view.
ringo2,
Oct 2, 10:25am
+1.If you want to prove that you are a budding Michael Schumacher go to a race track and find out. If you are merely travelling from a to b, take your time, enjoy the view and smell the roses.
crzyhrse,
Oct 2, 10:26am
Let us dispense with this potential little misnomer now before it creeps insidiously into this discussion: the impact of a head-on between two vehicles of similar mass is no greater than the impact of one of the vehicles travelling at the same road speed into a solid immovable object.
I'm not saying you don't already know this but the inference and wording may reinforce the false belief in those who certainly don't.
crzyhrse,
Oct 2, 10:28am
We already pay for it and always have. It's just that in the past the revenue has been diverted to other schemes.
thejazzpianoma,
Oct 2, 11:17am
+1 There is plenty of tax take to cover it. To some degree its really self funding i.e the roads that need improvement are the busier ones where more money is being spent on fuel tax.
The problem with Government both local and national is it wastes so much money and is terrible with priorities and organisation.
Your eyes would water if you could have an inside peak like I do now and then into just how much is wasted at even a local government level.
weaver2010,
Oct 2, 12:53pm
I wondered how long it would be before the arguements would start for raising the speedlimits here and complaining.
How many Kms of 3 lane carriegeway in this country seperated by a median barrier!Let alone duel carriegeways! Even if you challenge that question you just have to look at Aucklands "Motorway" to understand the differance in that the on/off ramps are to close together to even come close to the UK or European standard of a Motorway.
Then again would you also like to pay the fuel tax and rego rates as paid in the UK to have these roads!
ringo2,
Oct 2, 1:19pm
What you actually mean as opposed to what you are saying jazz it that you want all the money spent on the roads that YOU use and stuff anyone else. I will say once again we do not have the population to supply the standard of roads that they have in the UK and Europe. Mind you having said that I have driven on some shocking roads overseas.
wrong2,
Oct 2, 2:25pm
our roads are fine at 120
median barriers & seperated lanes are not needed
the speed cameras show off how many of us feel perfectly happy at higher-than-100 speeds
icemans1,
Oct 2, 2:41pm
so many drivers can't even enter the motorway at 100kmph in nz, they try to enter doing about 80kph while the motorway traffic is moving at 100kph
weaver2010,
Oct 2, 2:53pm
Given we are comparing roads to the Uk do you realise that many or the A and B roads in the UK are no wider than what we call highways and the speedlimit is and still will be 60mph (96kph).
weaver2010,
Oct 2, 2:56pm
Like the dimwit we wittnessed earlier this week near Auckland!Joining 3 lanes and the muppet dives straight to lane 2 doing 80kph.Nothing at all in lane 1.
wrong2,
Oct 2, 3:00pm
our roads , with all the road works , slips & truck-caused ripples & holes - are fine at 120
because 120 isnt fast ,dangerous, challenging speed
especially in a modern car
crzyhrse,
Oct 2, 5:21pm
I can top that. stupid injun woman getting on at Papatoetoe northbound, me in the middle lane. she comes straight out of the onramp and 45º across all 3 lanes to the right lane. still doing 70km/h.
franc123,
Oct 2, 5:29pm
The issue in NZ is more to do with slack attitude and driver training rather than poor roads or vehicles, re the possible introduction of higher speed limits.
blackcat17,
Oct 2, 5:48pm
Yep, the UK highways and the Autobahn which I have driven on are quite different things from most of our roads. But thats what you get when you have a population of 60 million plus to pay for them from.
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