i dialled 111 on a drunk woman driving the wrong way down the expressway.the dumb ass operator told me to follow her. i told her i wasnt following a drunk at 110 the wrong way down a motorway.then she said there was no one available to chase the *****down.so i went on my way to find a cop about 500m down the road ticketing a boy racer for some stupd thing like blue LEDS on his bonnet.good to see that a menace like blue LEDS is more importanat than a drunk woman driving in to oncoming traffic.dumbass plods
chrisdean007,
Nov 22, 4:29pm
I've decided that the less I hear about the other retards operating on the planet the happy i feel
gedo1,
Nov 22, 5:56pm
"My friend called the police who advised him to take the keys if it were possible."The above extract from your initial post seems quite clear.If you then later ask where anyone got the impression that you had said it WAS the Police who told him to take the keys your thread becomes a bit unstable.But anyway, I would assume that the Police may have already seen the security footage and are acting in response to the accuser (supported by the mute evidence on the video).
monaro_xxx,
Nov 22, 6:08pm
It's a process Kaz, Smac is right. It doesn't necessarily mean anything, welcome to our justice system.
"there is no JUSTICE system,just a LEGAL system"
fordcrzy,
Nov 22, 6:21pm
when i rang the police on the drunk driver they said to try and get the keys off her as i was breifly talking to her as she tried to get past me on the off ramp.
purple666,
Nov 22, 6:41pm
They are told to take the easy way out, arrest them all and let the court sort them out, can't trust the coppers to use common sense anymore. Happens all the time.
flashgordon_nz,
Nov 22, 7:36pm
therefore, your mates actions should fall under the umbrella of "citizens arrest" - as i understand it, not restraining, but detaining a person, with witnesses, who is believed to have broken to law, untill police arrive. To be honest, your mate did well, and im sure there are many on here crossing their fingers the "charges" dont go further.
bigracket,
Nov 22, 7:55pm
There is no such thing as a citizens arrest lol, somone is watching too much telly. An arrest can only be made by a sworn police officer.
sorry bigracket. i work 14 odd hours a day, and dont have much time for telly. just seen it used before, in nz, in real life.
geedubu,
Nov 22, 10:11pm
I strongly doubt if this person has been arrested &/or charged; I expect he may have been advised that the other person has made a complaint.Of course the police should advise him of this.If the OP is correct it will go no further.
bigracket,
Nov 22, 10:37pm
LOL crazy, How to Law ! come on That is a crap reference, where is that actually from ! seriously
bigracket,
Nov 22, 10:38pm
So whatI come running at you shouting you'r under citizens arrest and you are going to throw your arms up in the air and do what I say !
bigracket,
Nov 22, 10:41pm
"You should be aware that the suspect has the right to resist your efforts to make the arrest" Bahahahahaha
bigracket,
Nov 22, 10:55pm
The perp has more rights than you! and frankly if and I mean IF that is what the comms operator said (to take the keys off the perp) that was extremely bad advice and should be taken up with there superior. You would be better to get the rego and observe from a safe distance as a witness. It is the job of a sworn police officer to confront the offender and to make the arrest. Its not surprising in the least that there has been a reactionary counter charge laid.
pollymay,
Nov 22, 11:40pm
Sorry but f*** that, my mum crashed my first car into a minivan. The safest distance is from the the safety of the sidewalk with their keys, that is also on the assumption they are sober and have a vehicle, if you don't your only option is to hold them there. They don't have some god given right to get pissed and drive in traffic then make a scene about it. I'd of thrown their keys in the drain then called a towie if they wanted to play games. If they get pissed and are a danger to people on the road AND the sidewalk they deserve what they get, they're aggressive low lifes. The police are not everywhere at all times, they are not at bars when fights first break out or in the carpark you spotted someone breaking a car window and taking a handbag. If you apply common sense it should be fine. I've seen hoods do thousands in damage and hurt many people in a short space of time by smashing glass and throwing around broken bottles etc, who is going to wait 10minutes to an hour for the cops to show! I know I'm not, and you can bite me cause there is not one good reason to watch people die/get hurt/have property destroyed/tagged just because I'm supposed to sit on the phone playing the part of boy scout reconnaissance. It's dreamworld to think the police can handle EVERYTHING when every derp and their friends are ringing in small fights etc
My grandmother is prime example, she rang the cops once cause the newspaper guy "looked shady, he has no shirt on". Wow, great use of resources there, let's throw self dependence to the wind and just ring the cops on paper boys we don't like.
crzyhrse,
Nov 23, 10:47am
It's from the Crimes Act. Look it up.
rayzor14,
Nov 23, 12:46pm
Perhaps this is where we must differ in opinion. There is no way in hell that I would sit back and watch someone so intoxicated that they are unable to negotiate a service station forecourt and then allow them to drive off down the road whilst"sitting at a safe distance as witness". In the event that they kill or main I would feel my lack of action to be a casual factor in that. Perhaps this is the difference between old school folk and the new age PC breed. Ask yourself this - If you walked down the street and saw an old lady being beaten up for her handbag would you still sit back and watch from a safe distance!
foxdonut,
Nov 23, 3:30pm
Lets play paraphrase.
You and your friend were at the gas station and two guys showed up in aGMC "Serial Killer" Van. One was clearly drunk and the other was obviously high on crack. Both had "SPETZNATZ" marine tattoo's clearly visible on their necks.
All were carrying semiautomatic weapons and they entered the station and executed the attendant before looting the registers, smokes and filling up their van.
The non sworn on the phone advises you to take the keys.
Are you going to man up ' Mr old school'! Step up and show these clowns its not acceptable to drive under the influence of liquor and narcotics!
This thread is dubious and smells like bullshit to me.
bmwnz,
Nov 23, 3:33pm
Care to explain what Spetznatz means!
foxdonut,
Nov 23, 3:38pm
Special purpose forces - They're the badass Russian guys in the red berets that gas a movie theatre of 170 people to kill 5 Albanian terrorists.
bigracket,
Nov 23, 10:04pm
There is more to this story. No Polly they don,t have the right, nor does a does it give non sworn the right to confiscate key and place people "under arrest" I say again"You should be aware that the suspect has the right to resist your efforts to make the arrest" ( Copied from crazys link) Sorry to hear your mum crashed your* car into a* mini van Polly, that's got to suck.
bigracket,
Nov 23, 10:08pm
No I would start mouthing off at them and place them under citizens arrest, oh wait no I would hit them and they would charge me for assault, no that's not it. The police get paid to deal with this crap, what the world needs is a whole heap of mini hero cops!
bigracket,
Nov 23, 10:59pm
"A first or second charge of drink-driving is punishable by a maximum of three months imprisonment so there is no citizen's power of arrest. Further, drink-driving is not a crime. It is a traffic offence, although a serious one. A citizen does not have the power to arrest a drunk driver. The law will simply not allow vigilant justice, however important the apprehension of drunk drivers is to society." Retrieved from http://www.kungfu.co.nz/kf/newsl/OTACO-35437.html
bigracket,
Nov 23, 11:22pm
In conclusion to this the above link also suggest's "In the final analysis, I advise that by the time you have said "My name is Cecil Greebstibling of Primrose Place, window dresser, and I am arresting you for armed robbery", prepare yourself for a bashing. Ring the police.' "
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