Look hard and there's a guy holding on to that cable and he pulls on it.
morrisman1,
Nov 23, 6:55pm
thats better footage!
exwesty,
Nov 23, 7:05pm
Someone needs to pull down the video and edit the white balance, things would be a lot more visible then.
i-n-horz,
Nov 23, 10:45pm
I'm not positive but to me that guy looks like he's trying to flick the lifting cable up off the choppers skid.there's two other cables to the left and one of them looks like it's being affected by the rotor wash.need clearer footage.white balance as said above ^^^
the-lada-dude,
Nov 24, 8:59am
well there's another swing wing gone ! good ridence as far as i'm concerned. any body that steps into one of these death traps,Oh well more the fool you these things are a stupidly complex piece of machinery, there a prang just waiting to happen, and all human error, andyep folks, every last cause of impact is human error. with so many humans involved trying to keep these shit boxes going there's just an awlful lot of human error just waiting to rear its ugly head i believe we lead the world in our chopper crash rate over 10% / annum a long time ago robinson didn't want to sell their choppers into nz. they were terrified about the bad publicity their craft would attain . still i'm glad there were NO DEATHS in this prang ! ( that pilot was friggin lucky his lap belt only just held him in the cockpit.
a.woodrow,
Nov 24, 1:04pm
You'll be blabbering on the other side of your face if you're in an accident and need the rescue chopper to get you to hospital.
And you're talking drivel out of a hole in your head "everyone last one is human error" what a load of rubbish
nzmarty1,
Nov 24, 1:20pm
i've forwarded your details to st john and westpac so they can not waste their time picking you and your family up when you are inside the golden hour and lying on the side of the road willing for the 'thwack thwack' sound of your approaching magic carpet.or stuck in the bush and it's freezing and snowing and other people won't have to risk their lives, to save yours.
your comments truly are pathetic, and an insult to all those who maintain and fly 'swing wing' (sic.) aircraft
elect70,
Nov 24, 1:24pm
Robinson maintain their choppers are not designed for commercialwork esp lifting . Thats why our stats are so highmany were used for deer recovery , many buy them & use them for things they were never designed for .Brilliant littlemachine forpersonal transport .
romulan7,
Nov 24, 1:25pm
+1
I work around Helicopters a lot and more than a little aware of the risks involved.Being able to see this accident unfold will remind a few how dangerous they can be to work around and serve as a training video in the future.
When you see a rescue pilot land in what looks like an impossible place on the roadside or in a confined area, knowing that his skill will save someones life the risk of losing a life is very low and pales into insignificance.
tmenz,
Nov 24, 1:25pm
That's my take on it too - looks like the main rotor picked up up his own winch cable which was hanging loose from the tower, dragged it round, sheared the tail section then shock-dragged the rotor head off the top of the gearbox. Must be a really high breaking strain on that cable!
nzmarty1,
Nov 24, 1:29pm
Do you know how to get your hands on a R22!
Buy 10 acres near Ardmore and wait.lol
a.woodrow,
Nov 24, 1:53pm
! lol
I guess it's just our kiwi nature to push our equipment to the limit
bigjerry,
Nov 24, 2:21pm
I think you might wanna stay on the ground mate
the-lada-dude,
Nov 24, 2:32pm
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And you're talking drivel out of a hole in your head "everyone last one is human error" what a load of rubbish[/quote]
the-lada-dude,
Nov 24, 2:43pm
you wanta think about what you say b4 you open your big fat mouth woodrow. every piece of equipment failure or prang IS attributale to human error go stuff your westpac & st john choppers you won'y get me in one of those shit boxes dead or alive, i'd have more chance of surviving by being carried out on horse back
74nova,
Nov 24, 3:09pm
Thats possible, didn't look at it that way. He was very lucky to get out the way!
lookoutas,
Nov 24, 4:23pm
If that's so (and it is) Then what's wrong with the machine!
a.woodrow,
Nov 24, 4:37pm
Blah blah did you forget to take your meds! You clearly have no understanding of the aviation industry at all, feel free to throw your toys out the cot though by all means lol what are you technophobic! helicopters have revolutionised the world and saved lives in many situations. Accidents aren't all due to human error, anymore than any other kind of accident than can happen in that big bad world out there. and I stand by what I said,
a.woodrow,
Nov 24, 4:59pm
And I think your 10% figure is rubbish too. 10% of what! Have a look at the CAA website for a true figure on helicopter accidents per 100,000 hours flown.
gunhand,
Nov 24, 5:04pm
go stuff your westpac & st john choppers you won'y get me in one of those shit boxes dead or alive, i'd have more chance of surviving by being carried out on horse back
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the-lada-dude (20 )4:43 pm, Thu 24 Nov #43
All I can say is "your an idiot" please explian why you said this.
the-lada-dude,
Nov 25, 6:07am
i'll bet you all, a pound note to a pinch of shit , that helichoppers nave killed more people than they have saved! there you go ! your an idiotand i dont have to explain anything to you gunhand, only i wish you'ld point that thing in your hand at your own head
jezzwood in a row its got nothing to do with number of hrs flown. one in ten hellichopperson average will crash in nzmost are fatalsyou want to see the interview on tv1 with the hell pilot that pranged and listen very carefully to what he said about hell prangs
richard198,
Nov 25, 6:19am
the-lada-dude wrote: i'll bet you all, a pound note to a pinch of shit , that helichoppers nave killed more people than they have saved! there you go !
Lada's point is that because chopper accidents are a) something on the ground gets hit, or b) mechanical failure, you can attribute them all in some way or another to human involvement. If it's mechanical failure it could be missed service, or it could be graduate engineer somewhere in Brazil that overestimated the service life of the component.but it's still human involvement.
mrfxit,
Nov 25, 7:52am
As with most ppl, i simply follow the news & don't worry about doing in depth research, BUT . based on reality of general wear & tear OEM failiers etc etc, I would suspect the accident rate would be more like 85% human, 10% freak weather/other events & 5% OEM failier Some of it mixed in there, is simply just the nature of the job.
Shite happens, it's just that theres more chances with helicopters then planes because of the nature of the job & the environment of helicopters
guider1,
Nov 25, 8:23am
First off I have to say that la-de-da dude is somewhat correct, but his ignorance is astounding to say the very least! The reason NZ seems to have so many helicopter accidents is because NZ has so many helicopters per head of population. & it was worse in the early days of deer recovery! Greg Gribble is my old boss & i've loaded that particular helicopter many times while spraying or fertilising, lifting or whatever else was required. I spoke with Gregs son (Jaz) shortly after the accident and Greg has his own take on the event (which a couple of you have also mentioned) but no doubt CAA will get to the bottom of it. I have stood under that helicopter while hovering inches from my head while hooking a load up many times & not once did I feel in danger as I know how capable Greg is. Like any job, there are risks involved & ag work with helicopters is a VERY risky job (you only need to see their insurance premiums to figure that out!). Greg is one of NZ's most respected helicopter pilots with literally thousands of error-free hours flying to his name & I would doubt you could find any helicopter pilot in NZ that would say otherwise. Helisika as a company spare no expense in maintaining their helicopters as they do ALL their equipment & one only has to visit their hangar to see what I mean. All I can say is i'm glad Greg wasnt injured & that everyone within close proximity of the accident were unharmed. It just goes to show how quick something as awesome as a helicopter hovering (I think they're wicked to watch) can turn to custard. That's all from me.
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