spent several minuites(seemed like hours) waiting for a right turn arrow to go green,no opposing traffic ,no saftey reason not to turn ,these things just hold up traffic ,pointless really,in their absence normall rules would apply .BTW green arrows are your friend.
hyphen,
Mar 14, 9:24am
Yip, I agree with you and know the annoying problem of right-turn red arrows. Hamilton intersections seem to abound with this unnecessary curse. But have also noticed some major intersections without them, so wonder where the logic is or who decides on the 'right-turn red arrow rule'!
big.b-lil.c,
Mar 14, 9:32am
what do red arrows mean!
hyphen,
Mar 14, 9:42am
Yes, but at some intersections there a long periods of no opposing traffic, and you are just sitting there unnecessarily waiting when a right turn can be safely made following the normal rules.
trouser,
Mar 14, 9:58am
As do I.
richardmayes,
Mar 14, 10:19am
FTP!
jmma,
Mar 14, 10:38am
"What red arrow" Sir (o:
jmma,
Mar 14, 10:45am
Logic and Cops in the same sentence! You will never win
pge,
Mar 14, 2:48pm
You probably know the one at Whanga Rd/ Wade River Rd!
PITA for sure!
As an aside, try driving in Chch.
Down there, the red arrow stays on for a short while, to clear left-turn traffic, then goes out, and you can turn right normally (remembering the Right-Hand Rule).
I guess, up here, there are just too many MUPPETS OF ALL ETHNICITIES,who cannot figure out the road rules!
richms,
Mar 14, 2:54pm
It should be able to change once that F*(&(*&ing right turn rule changes. For now they are needed to stop idoits taking stupid risks when turning right when someone is coming towards them in the left turn lane.
chris_051,
Mar 14, 3:30pm
Yep, it woud be a disaster if the rule was removed as in general, the drivers on NZ roads are too fckn useless to switch on and think for themselves.
footplate1,
Mar 14, 6:29pm
We need a right-turning light at our intersection of Kohimarama Road - through traffic speeds through the intersection - cars, buses, container trucks. Turning right is consistently dangerous.
Mind you, with the number of red-light runners, it will probably be pointless.
richardmayes,
Mar 14, 7:30pm
YES! I've always thought that system was a huge improvement over the way it seems to operate in the Nth Island.
_peas,
Mar 14, 7:45pm
+2I completely ignore them up here.The shore has shockers!
There's even a red light that I ignore.Wairau Road heading north just before it passes under the motorway at Forrest Hill.There are two lanes on through the intersection. on for Forrest Hill traffic and one for Wairau Road. still get a red light though.
socram,
Mar 14, 7:47pm
Unfortunately, you are not only correct, but there is a set of lights at the end of our road (T junction) where there is indeed a red arrow, but we also have no idea coming from the opposite direction whether or not they have the red arrow or not, so we sit there like idiots waiting for them to turn right!
Totally agree with OP.They are totally unecessary and do nothing whatever to improve traffic flow.
Roundabouts work far better- once we have taught the idiots how to deal with them!
demons,
Mar 14, 7:49pm
yep allmost as bad as the on-ramp drag lights dont stop anymore just like red arrows a waste of time and money. takanini ramp drag lights make you wait for 20 secs
pollymay,
Mar 14, 10:39pm
Lol I was coming up to them in busy traffic and just cruised through the red past a couple indignant looking people then merged as per normal. Was so scary but luckily I knew what to do without guidance from lights, I think I blew a few aucklanders minds, they'd never seen it before.
On another note I almost hit a ford yesterday because he turned in front of me at a stop sign. So he failed to stop or give way to me, makes me wonder why councils and planners continually put more measures in place just for total meatheads to ignore/get wrong like they do with everything.
richms,
Mar 14, 10:39pm
Usually a red arrow in one direction is accompanied by a green arrow for the other guys.
The thing is with bloody NZ traffic lights, is not all of them have the same arrows on them. I was pulled over but let off for going thru a left turn red arrow because the one across the road with the red arrow was blocked by a bus, and the other one just had the right turn arrows, so solid green was on so I went. Cop behind me could see the red arrow on the same side of the intersection that I couldnt. Good thing he wasnt a total dick of a cop.
socram,
Mar 15, 1:31pm
Even the Americans can cope with that rule.
johnf_456,
Mar 15, 3:36pm
While I agree red arrows are in stupid places ignoring them is not the way about going around it. Why not write to your local council actually physically do something. You just never know when a cop may be there or a hidden camera. I sometimes write there rego down and dob them, if they are the sort that are putting others safety at risk. The laws of the road are there to be obeyed, if everyone had there own interpretationof good rules and bad rules (ie I'll obey rule/ law and dis obey this one). What would be the point of rules in the first place.
Work on changing the rules be pro active.
johnf_456,
Mar 15, 3:56pm
It must be one of the easiest uni degrees ever to get, based on the fact you don't learn nothing to pass.
footplate1,
Mar 15, 4:00pm
At our intersection, - Kohi Road, Allum Street and John Rymer Place, a round-about would be an improvement.It might also slow the speeding container truck, buses and red-light runners.Probably not the road space for one, though.Bums!
chris_051,
Mar 15, 4:03pm
Call it what ever but these lights do actually work, they are to stop the interruption of motor way traffic flow. When these lights aren;t working in peak hour, but the motorway is flowing good, 70-80kmh, its a real shitfight as the lh lane that merges with the on ramp comes to a stand still as dickhead auckland drivers don;t have the common sense to figure out merging traffic. Decent drivers = no need for these lights, hence we have these lights in Auckland.
socram,
Mar 15, 7:02pm
Can't quite accept the logic of the on ramp lights when they join the motorway with their own lane!(Takapuna northbound, Hobson St Southbound.)
If the Auckland motorway system was designed properly, it would have the most number of lanes where traffic is the heaviest - ie around the city.
Look upon the human heart as the classic example.The largest arteries are closest to the heart and the smallest capiliaries are furthest away where they don't have the volume.It is a simplistic explanation as to why Auckland's motorway system is a total shambles.
johnf_456,
Mar 15, 7:04pm
Sadly no matter how much you increase the roads in auckland it will always be full of traffic. But yup I agree it needs to be better than what it is now.
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