Exactly, they dont pay it directly. They pay for the owner/operators to provide a service to them. then we all pay it indirectly too when we freight stuff with them.
xacoon,
Jun 29, 7:15pm
what! has this place turned into a stir free zone now! gahh wheres the fun in that
xacoon,
Jun 29, 7:16pm
sooooooooo what you are saying, is that they don't pay, but they do pay. gotcha
im_andrew,
Jun 29, 7:20pm
Exactly. the same way you dont go handing pocketfulls of money over to dole bludgers. but you still do (just indirectly)
xacoon,
Jun 29, 7:20pm
and for all and sundry, mainfreight is now a global logistics provider, not a local trucking company anymore. so yeh they probably have a fairly good cash flow at this present point in time. good on them. built from the ground up. boss man has taste in cars.
xacoon,
Jun 29, 7:21pm
Oh I know I do and they hear about it don't you worry
djrandomguy,
Jun 29, 7:39pm
ok. i'm now slightly wiser. s'all good people.i'll be happy enough with the cash i save on fuel.cheers.
thejazzpianoma,
Jun 29, 9:46pm
Quite true, national and local government in this country are incredibly wasteful and inefficient. Diesel taxed at the pump would do a lot to tax the many many people who disconnect their speedometers. Sure we would have to somehow rebate agricultural users etc but there are ways to do that. This system would automatically encourage the use of cleaner more efficient diesels which is a good thing all round.
wotz_it_2_ya,
Jun 29, 9:50pm
Just think about how much diesel doesn't get used on roads - fishing boats, agriculture, logging, earthmoving, standby generators, stationary plant. The list is almost endless. The paperwork in excise refunds for all this would be horrendous.
djrandomguy,
Jun 29, 10:44pm
if only we had computers to do the paperwork for us.
djrandomguy,
Jun 30, 1:56am
can of worms opening up.what we need is apathy .
hutchk,
Jun 30, 5:10am
The best thing to do is quit your job, grow a scraggly beard and some manky white man dreads, then march to the beehive with a bullhorn, a few signs, a couple of lesbians, and a maori. It's the New Zilland way.
xacoon,
Jun 30, 5:37am
been a while since I passed a fishing boat or even a stationary plant driving down the road.
xacoon,
Jun 30, 5:40am
figures may be in lala land but the sentiment is bang on here. this is the main arguement against tax at pumps. aside from the fact diesel would be the same price as petrol and give the diesel drivers something else to moan about.
smac,
Jun 30, 5:50am
Actually no, you are incorrect. The vast majority of diesel used in NZ is not on the road, that's why we have the system. Shipping, logging, agricultural contracting, industrial plant. Plant and shipping power outputs are HUGE by road standards, and they tend to run 24hrs.Either you tax at source and have the majorityclaim a refund (illogical, expensive), or you don't tax at source and tax per use (RUC).
shark574,
Jun 30, 6:21am
Your spot on.
A small car or van pays4.6 cents a km and a 44tonne truck and trailer pays 51cents a km. Over a year an average car doing 15000 ks pays $690 yet the avereage truck doing 100 000kms pays $51000 in RUC.
matthew111,
Jun 30, 6:41am
no. passenger cars also need to pay RUC.
smac,
Jun 30, 7:04am
Who's your "no" to!
xacoon,
Jun 30, 7:29am
ummm yeh, sorry to break it to you but the "digger trailer" will have ruc paid, so will the low loader trailer for carting the hauler. actually come to think of it, all that was mentioned has to be trucked somehow, so will effectively pay ruc.
meathead_timaru,
Jun 30, 1:12pm
They still pay them. They just pay them to the contractors. Who pay them to the government.
shark574,
Aug 14, 7:43pm
No. The current style of system is alot easier than trying to claim back of road use. Diesel would go up by alteast 60c per litre if taxed at source so could become more expensive than petrol like in aussie. It will be better when the new system of RUC comes in with a flat rate for each type of vehicle rather than the gross weight system currently in place.
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