TORANA SLR

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mrfxit, May 28, 7:43am

smac, May 28, 8:06am
I think people are getting a bit hung up on the word original. It's still an SLR Torana ( if that's what it is). OK it's not worth what it would be if it had the original block, but it's still a sought after car. It would certainly be worth good money of brought back to spec.

illusion_, May 28, 8:49am
And therin lies the problem. Reading back over what has been stated, my opinion is that it is NOT "what it is", but rather just some hotrodded LH with (maybe) a few decals

smac, May 28, 9:02am
Why would you think that though! Either it's an SLR or it's not. The only thing in this thread that offers any info one way or the other is the OP saying it is one.

illusion_, May 28, 9:11am
"1975 torana SLR with a fully recond worked 308 & recond munce box & 9 inch dif"
worked!
9"!
Why would you!

"What if it had the original 4.2 in it !"
really!

"Original Torana SLR did not say 5000 even though it will now have a 308 in it."
is that right! ;)

SLRs are like gold. You just dont do that sort of stuff to them.
Thats why I'm thinkin that way.
So yeah, youre correct . " Either it's an SLR or it's not. "

smac, May 28, 9:17am
The thing is, they're gold now (damned if I know why), but the conversion could have been done 30 years ago.

There's plenty modified/converted RS Capris, Cooper S, GT 'coons.

Who really knows! Oh except the owner.

illusion_, May 28, 9:20am
only way to tell for sure would be the chassis number I guess

lumpster, May 28, 3:52pm
I have just got some paper work and the engine number was HR19108 & the chassis number is ALH018972M it also has L32 & M20 on the plate on the car.

brokebloke1, May 28, 5:00pm
what is on the I.D tag on firewall!
cause looking at my ID tag book for LH-LX
those details mean nothing
if it was a real SLR either 4.2 or 5.0
it would be
for a SLR5000 .=8D69TDL3.H
for a SLR4200 yes they did build these8D69RDJ1.H

lumpster, May 29, 6:33am
The car is a SL/R & been off the road for around 16 years i have all the original paper work & service books & history of all 3 owners since new from Rotorua the diff was put in around 18 years ago with the box & engine & have a box full receipts for around 12k. The body is fully original inside & out apart from the huge polished stainless tank. The reg is on hold & i will be restoring the car to a very high standard over the next 18 months.I am a panel beater of 26 years & wanted to do some thing like this for a while.I pick up the car today.

sue344, May 29, 11:06am
ok so if you've bought it then you must know what its worth, ie; how much you paid for it

brokebloke1, May 29, 11:49am
yes I think alot of people would like to know this.

I know of a real SLR5000 that is in Ashburton hasn't moved from under the carport for the past 7 years, this is still a 1 owner that was imported for the owner back in 1976.
Sadly its slowly rusting away . shame as it was a very nice car,its that sickly lime green.

lumpster, May 29, 12:42pm
Why has no body made them an offer!

gusthe1, May 31, 11:47am
because its sickly lime green.

321mat, May 31, 12:00pm
SL/R's are very cool, BUT, the L34 with the larger valves is the one to own.

lordv81, May 31, 1:48pm
Without other details your torana is an LH with a 4.2ltr{253} and an m20 box from factory,could be an SLR if you can find the right numbers on the tags or body.

lumpster, May 31, 4:24pm
If you want to know its 8D696RDJ447624H but one of the numbers is damaged so its hard to read.

whynot7, May 31, 5:08pm

hotrodtodd1, May 31, 5:28pm
Rego on hold & needs a rebuild but tags confirm its an SL/R!

Even modified and needing work, provided its no rustbucket its got to be worth $12,000 any day of the week. Probably $15,000.if I wasnt so miserable

lumpster, May 31, 5:54pm
I have now got the engine bay totally striped no guards,bonnet,scuttle,front panel,bumper only front shell & suspension ready to de wired & de hole & painted atomic green before repainted engine (with lots of chrome) goes in. And yes the suspension will come out & be painted with new bushes.

guider1, May 31, 6:35pm
The M20 & M21 are not a real Muncie at all. Muncie is an american g/box, the M20/M21 is an Aussie box that is nowhere near as strong nor does it even resemble a genuine Muncie. I fitted an M21 to my old GTR Torana years ago.
An old friend of mine had a genuine L34 SLR years ago that he fitted a screaming 355 chev/Toploader & 9" to because he kept breaking everything. Sacrilige I know, but that's what used to happen to these now-classics because back then there were still many cruising around the streets.

guider1, May 31, 6:38pm
Barbados green. mint colour.

guider1, May 31, 6:56pm
Nope, not confused. The M21 in an SLR is not the same Muncie as in what came out in American cars.

guider1, May 31, 6:58pm
The Muncie 4-speed transmission was used with many different GM models and engine combinations from 1963 through 1974. The basic design and operation theory of the gearbox changed little during this period, however several design upgrades and modifications were made during the total production run. The Muncie was used with most performance engines, and is not to be confused with the Saginaw or Borg Warner 4-speeds.
The Muncie is distinguished from the Saginaw in that the reverse lever on the Muncie is mounted in the extension housing, where the Saginaw reverse lever is mounted in the side cover. The main difference between the Muncie and the Borg-Warner is that the Muncie has a 7-bolt side cover and the Borg Warner has a 9-bolt side cover.
Muncie 4-speeds were produced in two different ratios wide ratio (M-20) and close-ratio (M-21). An extra heavy duty close-ratio version (M-22) was also offered on many of the big-block high-performance models.The choice of transmission was dictated by the engine size and rear-axle ratio. Axle ratios of 3.73 and lower (numerically higher) came with close-ratio transmissions, while axle ratios of 3.55 and higher (numerically lower) used wide-ratio transmissions. In addition, many GM high-performance engines came with M-22 ???Rock-Crusher??? in the 1970-73 years, however an early version of the M-22 was available as early as 1965 in Corvettes.
Proper identification of the transmission type is absolutely necessary, but sometimes difficult due to several factors. First, GM used several different methods to label and identify transmissions from year to year and model to model. Unfortunately the identification systems seem to have many exceptions, rendering them virtually useless to the restorer. In addition, due to engine and transmission swaps, and modifications that occur over the years many cars do not carry the original drivetrain that they were produced with.

For example, due to interchangeability, a 1969 Pontiac could have a trans case and gears from a Buick and a rear housing (extension) from an Oldsmobile. Several production changes through the years that effect the external appearance may also cause additional confusion when identifying a particular transmission:

1. Both single and dual drain plugs were used.
2. Speedometer adapters were used on either sides of the rear section (extension).
3. Side covers were sometimes secured with studs and nuts, other times with bolts.
4. Input shafts may be fine or coarse spline. Output shafts may be large or small. Combinations of these vary.
5. External shift levers are secured with studs and nuts, others with bolts. Some levers are long and some short.
6. Input shafts may have 1 ring, 2 rings, or no rings at all.

guider1, May 31, 7:01pm
I fitted an Aussie M21 to my GTR & have sold & fitted a few American Muncies over the years. 2 totally different gearboxes.